[ IMAGES: Images ON turn off | ACCOUNT: User Status is LOCKED why? ]

MAYOOOOO
Author Thread
fishmike
Posts: 53902
Alba Posts: 1
Joined: 7/19/2002
Member: #298
USA
6/12/2008  9:22 PM
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by TrueBlue:

Like I said two clear Franchise players in this draft and he's one of them. I'm only highly interested in 3 players in this draft.

1. Beasley
2. Mayo
3. Gordon

Anyone else is a consolation prize, although there are going to be some good ones to leave with at 6 if it comes to it.


Gordon is going to be exposed real quick. He is no PG and is a 6-2 shooting G. I want to see him g uard the Kobes VC etc of the league who will have target practice over his head


YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELY ZERO CREDIBILITY AND I MEAN ZERO.

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=25794

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=25817

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=25863

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=25946

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=25945

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=25961

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=25984

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=26065

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=26084

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=26099

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=26151

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=26186

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=26156

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=26249

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=26394

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=26450

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=26495

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=26664

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=26688

time for a girlfriend. enyspree and I will give you a make-over and show you how to talk to them



"winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
AUTOADVERT
nyk4ever
Posts: 41010
Alba Posts: 12
Joined: 1/12/2005
Member: #848
USA
6/12/2008  9:31 PM
LOL Fish.

Como se llama! Kelly Clarkson! Mother Trucker!
"OMG - did we just go on a two-trade-wining-streak?" -SupremeCommander
OasisBU
Posts: 24138
Alba Posts: 4
Joined: 6/18/2002
Member: #257
USA
6/12/2008  9:32 PM
If you are lucky you can get Mayo for crawford and the #6 - not a chance someone gives up that talent for Nate. You might even have to give Lee and #6 to grab him - again, if you are lucky someone will pull the trigger on that.

Lets get real here guys - the top 3 talent in this draft is potentially better than anyone on our roster.

Talented shooting guards in the mold of Kobe, Lebron, etc are few and far between - now I dont know much about Mayo's game but I know he is supposed to be legit. Maybe he wont be Kobe or Lebron but he will be a serious player in this league. Our roster is full of role players not top flight talent.
"If at first you don't succeed, then maybe you just SUCK." Kenny Powers
SlimPack
Posts: 23588
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 10/14/2005
Member: #1009
USA
6/12/2008  9:33 PM
Posted by islesfan:

I agree with Briggs on Gordon. If we use this pick, I want a guy who can develop into a solid two way player, someone who doesn't need the ball to make an impact on the game.

I think this should only apply late picks, and signings. as far as a high pick like the 6th goes, I think the Knicks should pick whatever player they think has the best chance to be star caliber player. And if that player is Eric Gordon I'd be fine with that. I think to only take a player that you know would be a good team player is playing it too safe. If the Knicks can draft a Kevin Martin type player over a Tayshaun Prince type player, I think they should do that. (I'm just using those two player's as examples as to what type of player I'm talking about)

I pretty much agree with the other thing you said. There are only 2 or 3 at the max, sure things in this draft. Everything else is a risk to at least some degree.
EnySpree
Posts: 44919
Alba Posts: 138
Joined: 4/18/2003
Member: #397

6/12/2008  9:52 PM
Posted by fishmike:
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by TrueBlue:

Like I said two clear Franchise players in this draft and he's one of them. I'm only highly interested in 3 players in this draft.

1. Beasley
2. Mayo
3. Gordon

Anyone else is a consolation prize, although there are going to be some good ones to leave with at 6 if it comes to it.


Gordon is going to be exposed real quick. He is no PG and is a 6-2 shooting G. I want to see him g uard the Kobes VC etc of the league who will have target practice over his head


YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELY ZERO CREDIBILITY AND I MEAN ZERO.

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=25794

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=25817

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=25863

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=25946

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=25945

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=25961

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=25984

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=26065

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=26084

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=26099

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=26151

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=26186

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=26156

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=26249

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=26394

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=26450

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=26495

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=26664

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=26688

time for a girlfriend. enyspree and I will give you a make-over and show you how to talk to them




Man this is all I have to do and the ladies come and kneel before me......its good to be the king.
Subscribe to my Podcast https://youtube.com/c/DiehardknicksPodcast https://twitter.com/DiehardknicksPC https://instagram.com/diehardknickspodcast
TMS
Posts: 60684
Alba Posts: 617
Joined: 5/11/2004
Member: #674
USA
6/12/2008  10:02 PM
Posted by EwingsGlass:

I am signing on. I would offer Nate and the 6 for Minny's #3, but either way.

that won't get it done... u'd have to throw in D Lee in that package for them to even consider it.
After 7 years & 40K+ posts, banned by martin for calling Nalod a 'moron'. Awesome.
newyorknewyork
Posts: 30259
Alba Posts: 1
Joined: 1/16/2004
Member: #541
6/13/2008  1:57 AM
Jamal Crawford & #6 for Jaric & #3 thats my proposed deal.

Let D'Antoni work his magic on Jaric who I personally think would have a great yr under D'Antoni and he even plays solid defense. He just can't guard smaller quicker PGs.

Swap Randolph with Kenyon Martin
David Lee & Richardson for Ron Ron
Nate, Rose, Marbury & Curry for O'neal, Tinsley, Daniels.

O'neal,Kmart,Artest,Jaric,Mayo,Tinsley,Chandler,Daniels.

I don't care what anybody says, that lineup is sick, you get defense from every player to. Our medical staff will get a lot of overtime though.
https://vote.nba.com/en Vote for your Knicks.
blueNorange
Posts: 20401
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 3/31/2007
Member: #1413
USA
6/13/2008  2:12 AM
if the Knicks get Mayo i might be a little big positive this upcoming season -- a little wittle bit.
some Knick fans accept mediocrity as excellence .... I don't!
TMS
Posts: 60684
Alba Posts: 617
Joined: 5/11/2004
Member: #674
USA
6/13/2008  2:45 AM
Posted by newyorknewyork:

Jamal Crawford & #6 for Jaric & #3 thats my proposed deal.

Let D'Antoni work his magic on Jaric who I personally think would have a great yr under D'Antoni and he even plays solid defense. He just can't guard smaller quicker PGs.

Swap Randolph with Kenyon Martin
David Lee & Richardson for Ron Ron
Nate, Rose, Marbury & Curry for O'neal, Tinsley, Daniels.

O'neal,Kmart,Artest,Jaric,Mayo,Tinsley,Chandler,Daniels.

I don't care what anybody says, that lineup is sick, you get defense from every player to. Our medical staff will get a lot of overtime though.

i would love for that scenario to play out, only i'd swap D Lee w/Chandler in the Artest deal... don't forget we'd still have Balk who could be a backup for Artest & that team already has enough scorers so they can afford to give Chandler away... they need guys who bring other elements & a guy like Balk would fit well w/that squad you just put together... & i don't think Tinsley really fits into a run & gun uptempo style... he's more of a halfcourt style PG if u ask me... i'd hold onto Nate especially if we're trading Jamal away.

just imagine Nate running the break w/Mayo, Balk, Lee & KMart running on the wings? that would be some exciting stuff right there.
After 7 years & 40K+ posts, banned by martin for calling Nalod a 'moron'. Awesome.
BRIGGS
Posts: 53275
Alba Posts: 7
Joined: 7/30/2002
Member: #303
6/13/2008  10:34 AM
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by TrueBlue:

Like I said two clear Franchise players in this draft and he's one of them. I'm only highly interested in 3 players in this draft.

1. Beasley
2. Mayo
3. Gordon

Anyone else is a consolation prize, although there are going to be some good ones to leave with at 6 if it comes to it.


Gordon is going to be exposed real quick. He is no PG and is a 6-2 shooting G. I want to see him g uard the Kobes VC etc of the league who will have target practice over his head


YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELY ZERO CREDIBILITY AND I MEAN ZERO.

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=25794

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=25817

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=25863

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=25946

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=25945

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=25961

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=25984

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=26065

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=26084

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=26099

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=26151

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=26186

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=26156

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=26249

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=26394

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=26450

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=26495

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=26664

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=26688


Dude--are you weird? you must be in love! Sorry man already spoken for
RIP Crushalot😞
newyorknewyork
Posts: 30259
Alba Posts: 1
Joined: 1/16/2004
Member: #541
6/13/2008  11:08 AM
i would love for that scenario to play out, only i'd swap D Lee w/Chandler in the Artest deal... don't forget we'd still have Balk who could be a backup for Artest & that team already has enough scorers so they can afford to give Chandler away... they need guys who bring other elements & a guy like Balk would fit well w/that squad you just put together... & i don't think Tinsley really fits into a run & gun uptempo style... he's more of a halfcourt style PG if u ask me... i'd hold onto Nate especially if we're trading Jamal away.

just imagine Nate running the break w/Mayo, Balk, Lee & KMart running on the wings? that would be some exciting stuff right there.

I think Lee & Chandler for Artest is giving up to much. I really like Lee & Chandler's game personaly. I could part with one of them for Artest, but not both(it would eat me up). If I had to give up another asset id rather give up Balkman.

Tinsley is another player I like, I don't really like his contract or health status but Id take the chance on him with the rotation of players we had in that senario. Tinsley is a flashy pass first PG who isn't a great shooter though, I think he is well suited for an uptempo game creating highlight real passes.

Tinsley,Jaric,Mayo,Artest would be fierce defensively in the backcourt.
https://vote.nba.com/en Vote for your Knicks.
Uptown
Posts: 31378
Alba Posts: 3
Joined: 4/1/2008
Member: #1883

6/13/2008  12:34 PM
Anyone notice when they asked Mayo about fitting in with this team, he mentioned playing with Nate, Craw, and Q-Rich.....He didn't say a word about Marb. Neither did Bayless. Wonder what D'Antoni is telling these guys when they go out to dinner?
TrueBlue
Posts: 29144
Alba Posts: 12
Joined: 9/20/2006
Member: #1172

6/13/2008  1:23 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by TrueBlue:

Like I said two clear Franchise players in this draft and he's one of them. I'm only highly interested in 3 players in this draft.

1. Beasley
2. Mayo
3. Gordon

Anyone else is a consolation prize, although there are going to be some good ones to leave with at 6 if it comes to it.


Gordon is going to be exposed real quick. He is no PG and is a 6-2 shooting G. I want to see him g uard the Kobes VC etc of the league who will have target practice over his head


YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELY ZERO CREDIBILITY AND I MEAN ZERO.

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=26099

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=26151

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=26186

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=26156

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=26249

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=26394

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=26450

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=26495

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=26664

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=26688

Dude--are you weird? you must be in love! Sorry man already spoken for


First Link
originally posted by Briggs Feb 26

Kosta Koufos
He's been kind of under the radar for portions of the year but he is VERY VERY skilled and plays HARD for 7 feet 265. I'm kind of not the biggets fan of bigs having portions of their game from the perimeter but he shows toughness inside as well. He's playing at a very tough program--he seems to have a very high character--he plays hard --he's another guy the Knicks should really be looking at. If we dont get picks 1-3 I'm thinking big man and he has to be very high on the list.

I wonder if you meant high on the list as above pick 16 since you gave him consideration after pick 3. Currently slated to be picked mid teens in the low 20's

Second Link
originally posted by Briggs Feb 28

1.Pick up 3 players on the cheap IF we do not get pick 1-2-3-
A. JR Smith 3 years 10mm
B Primo Brezec 2 years 5mm$ team option on third
C Draft a C
2. Use draft choice and ending contract to go after a player like MO Williams Ben Gordon i.e Malik rose pick 7 for MO. Use Full front loaded MLE on Josh Childress and LLE on Primo Brezec. In this scenario the guard slot is taken care of--we get a high % player who will fill in for Q[who takes Fred Jones role off the bench] Childress FG% is 20 points higher than Q's and he's longer. Atlanta is going to be cash-strapped
3. Trade pick down for later pick in round + 2010 1st rounder and 2009 2nd Use MLE split on Smith and Brezec[cheap] i.e 7 for 17 stock up on some picks for the future that we lost.
I don't see the Clippers parting with elton Brand + he can just walk if he wants to go to Miami anyway. I'm not interetsed in Ron Artest because an MLE will run him until he's 35 and I don't think he's the way we should go.

Basically Im looking for a good G a good {Smith Gordon Williams] a Good high% SF{childress]
a back up 7 footer and if I dont get a top 5 pick draft the best big man available for the future.

Wow you wanted to trade Malik and 7 pick for Mo Williams who just signed a 6yr $52mil contract. Unreal


Third Link
originally posted by Briggs Mar 1

I think we've been going back and forth all year on guys that make sense for us and it sure has been a fluid market. I have broke it down to 6 players[thinking that we will have a top 6 pick] and reasons why I have done so.
1. Mike Bealey 2. Derrick Rose--simply put two best players availble
3. Brook Lopez 4 Deandre Jordan--- Lopez is the most ready C prospect with a nice frame/true 7 footer with nice overall skills offensive and efensive and is the most fundamental 7 footer on the baord. I've been back and forth with Deandre all year. He was my first choice after pick 1-2 at the beginning of the year--alot of his own play made me drop him and question him but the more I watch I cannot refute the incredible physical package he has and the fact that he is rebounding the ball and has increased his shot blocking late in the year. He still has a LOOOONG way to go--he cant shoot he's awful from the FT line his intensity isnt always there but too much speed athletiscm and strength in a 7 foot body to ignore + he picked the wrong college team to play for. If he was on a team where he was a focus and had more space--it's possible he would have gone top 3 despite the negatives
5 Jerryd Bayless---He is better than Rose right now and might be better in the pros but6 Rose's physical strength and dramtic improvement on his jumpshot late in the year seperate the two and drops Bayless below the top two tier C prospects
6 Kosta Koufus--He is something between a Pau Gasol and a Memo Okur but he is tougher than Okur and I think he can be taught to stay in the post more in the NBA and use is outside abilities to compliment rather than to be a major factor in his play. He is tough skilled and 7-1 250 enough said.

Well here we have confirmation on Kosta Koufos you got him at pick 6 oh and you also have Deandre Jordan in the Top 5. Not sure what to think of the Rose Bayless Back and Forth. Same Thread 3rd post
originally posted by Briggs Mar 1

To round off a top 10
7 OJ Mayo
8 Roy Hibbert
9 Eric Gordon
10 Chris Douglas Roberts

OMG you had CDR in your top 10 and the guy did nothing after this time to diminish his stock. CDR current projections mid teens to low 20's. LOL @ Roy Hibbert in your Top 10


Fourth Link
originally posted by Briggs Mar 7

If we are top 4 i would pick out of Beasley1 Rose 2 Lopez 3 Randolph4

I just wanted to see what others thought on mayo bayless gordon.
This is defintely the most confusing draft in ten+ years after pick 2. It would be very easy to do the draft 1-2---after that I am convinced we should go big to pick 4--after that I could change my mind 50 times over the next 2 months quite honestly I could have a different answer every day--i say big because this team will not be good without getting rid of the curry/randolph quagmire either lopez or the other randolph can play 4 and block shots and both are good 2 ways---we can find a guard easy in the NBA ---- big man MUCH harder--who says JR Smith isnt better than any guard in this draft and he could be had for cheap. You cant find a big man with the upisde of a JR Smith for the same price. You get crp for 5mm$+

Pres Ike-- i will say this about Thabeet. Thabeet is a safe pick for the Knicks in this fashion. Number 1 he will get huge endorsements from coach calhoun[who doesnt say a guy is good if he is not] rick pitino and jim boehim. He is 7-3 265 pound pure athletic C--truly the only pure 1 in the draft. He is larger than life up close and will be a sure fire hit with fans who are looking for a direction with the team. He will NOT be under fire to be fully ready to produce NOW while he can HELP now--very similar to Bynum. He will get 0 negative press--he's very smart he's a hardworker with very high character. He's from the tri state area[uconn] and has a HUGE following in Africa. So if he is picked no one will be booing and there will be some gidiness and anticipation from fans and a+ from the media--there will be no backlash and much less expectations than many other players from pick 5-8.

Probably the most profound statement that supports the argument against you this past week. Oh so after pick 4 you are confused as to what to do and may change your mind? Which that's exactly what you have done. It is because the draft has so much comparable talent? Keep in mind it's Mar 7 and most games have been played to this point. . I kind of wonder if you ever locked in on Bynum from the get go, or did you hold out and then finally decide on draft day which would be equivalent to doing a Paper, Rock, Scissors or Flipping a Coin, or Throwing a Dart Blindfolded.

Another post in the same thread
originally posted by Briggs Mar 7

It's very confusing after 2 but 1-2 are easy. There is no way that Michael Beasley isnt going 1. We need Michael Beasley so badly--he is a sure fire star. Rose has star caliber in him but he is NOT Michael Besaley. IMO you will also see Beasley's passing go into the 4-5 range in the nBA because hes a willing passer. Michael Beasley will average 24-25 points grab 9 rebounds with 4 ast shooting 50% year 1. In this case it could change the Knicks from a 20 win team to a 50 win team with a few other subtle moves. Rose will help but NO WAY will he have the same impact on this team Beasley would.

Keep this post on Beasley as a reference it's coming into play shortly

Fifth Link
originally posted by Briggs Mar 8

1. Michael Beasley F
2. Derrick Rose G
3 Brook Lopez F/C
4. Anthony Randolph F
5 Hasheem Thabeet C

I'm going to give some credit here you've been relatively high on Randolph for a while, but unfortunately another post in this thread was an eyebrow raiser
originally posted by Briggs

chances are the Knicks won't get the 1st pick ... but if they do then they should get Beasley and trade Lee + fillers for another pick and get Augustin.

I think Nate should be considerd a main core piece now so you don't want another under 6 foot player other than as a bit player/third back up type.

Hmmmmm Lee for Augustin. This post will come into play shortly

Sixth Link
originally posted by Briggs Mar 8

draft pick Lopez 1 Randolph2 Thabeet or Jordan
sign JR Smith G 6-6 225 MLE for four years 21mm
sign Tyrone Lue LLE
resign Fred Jones to a vet minimum
Release Jerome James Mardy Collins and buyout Marbury
Lets say for instance 10 man rotation

C-Curry
F Lee
F Chandler
G Crawford
G Nate
CF Lopez Randolph Thabeet
F Jefferies or Balkman
G Smith
G Jones
G Lue

We get 2 shooters who can go 45% and JR can step into the 3 as well. We get faster longer more athletic yet we keep some continuity that we have seen the last 3 games and from periods of 2006. No abrasive voices like Ron Artest--just guys who fill roles/holes that we need for very cheap on basis.

So you wanted to trade Lee for Augustin who you said just yesterday is nothing but a Tyronne Lue clone and you want absolutely nothing to deal with at pick 6. You said Lee is worth a pick in the Top 10 just as recent as this week. But you'd sign Lue to the LLE to back up Nate? Which means you'd trade Lee for a backup point guard to Nate. Nice!!!!!!

Seventh Link
originally posted by Briggs Mar 10

Thabeet. He is the highest ceiling player in this draft after 2--the last two games he has played has cemented what he is and took away a few fears I had about him. He is better than Lopez imho and his defense and rebounding are 10 notches above any other C coming into the draft imho. I'm sticking with this pick and Im noit coming off it no matter what happens--players like Thabeet dont come around often at 7-3 270--in fact I dont remember 1 who has the same athletic ability touch strength speed and stamina for such a huge man. I think what he would represent to NY is an avenue back to what we were in the 90s and how we stayed on a championship competitive level for 15 years--emphasising defense first. I will also say I believe that while he reminds me of Mutumbo --he has HIGHER offensive potnetial which in my mind puts the seal on it. Mark it down right here and come back and see me in three years.

Just the things he did tongight--using the left hand on two nifty shots inside with touch--a foul line jumpshot a driving hook two monster slams on athletic drives[one disallowed] he's a monster that is building very fast and we should NOT lose this opportnuty the way we lost out on Bynum. What you have to watch when evaluating the athlete is improvement and this kid keeps improving and the way he's improving is on a high level. What he showed tongiht was impressive--I don't want Isiah to be locked into one F guy like he has in the last 4 years since he ahs been here--have an open mind and dont worry about what the rookie can do on day 1 rather what he can be. Thabeet can be a franchise talent --I have seen that tonight and I have seen him play 60 times over the last two years. He has come a LONg way in a short time.

Nothing real major with this post besides slight wavering on Lopez and Randolph in order to make room for Thabeet. What I find intriguing is the player with the highest ceiling IYO in this draft went back to school. Maybe he'll be a Peyton Manning of the NBA

Eigth Link
originally posted by Briggs Mar 14th

who can show the same skills as this kid shows? Again this is a 7 footer with extremly long arms. I'm staying in the camp we need a big man--guard are much easier to acquire.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJilDqw8JOY

I guess not Thabeet. Lopez, Jordan, Randolph guys who you were all high on. Here comes the Mcgee Parade

Ninth Link
originally posted by Briggs Mar 16

1. Beasley
2. Rose
3. McGee
4 Lopez
5 Mayo

Bye Bye Randolph, Kosta, Thabeet nice knowing you, it's been real. Another post in the same thread confirms
I flipped him slightly back into the later lottery. I think the Knicks might be slightly worse off than can be afforded to take a one way player right now[although I firmly believe Hasheem has very good offensive potential] I've come to like Mcgee--there is no doubt you can play him now and he has a surprising skill set for such a big player. If the NBA becomes a faster game you want your big men to be able to move with the speed. I firmly believe we cannot take a 6-2/6-3 shooting guard--we're way to small defensively to do that. I'd like the player I select to have a high ceiling and there is no Allen Iverson in this draft.

Briggs Top 5 to Brigss Top uhhhhh maybe 16????


Tenth Link

Swishfm3 said this was a flavor of the day only for Briggs to reply with
originally posted by Briggs Mar 17

I think if anyone had a player they liked set in stone in this partiuclar draft other than pick 1 or two--then they were probably ahead of themselves. I believe the TOP 5 LONG term prospects are

Beasley
Rose
Mayo
Lopez
Mcgee

and I have watched a ton fo basketball--there are others I like very much--but Im dealing with our reality right now which is top 5. There is NO G other than Rose or Mayo that has a high enough ceiling for me. At 6 I'm looking at Griffin Randolph Thabeet and I believe Augustin now enters the talks. Hopefully we keep position so we can continue to talk 5 and up.


Dang McGee in just one day you moved down two spots. Uh Oh another reference after picks 1 and 2 the draft is essentially a crap shoot.


Eleventh Link
originally posted by Briggs Mar 22

1. Beasley
2. Rose
3. Mcgee
4 Lopez
5 Randolph
6 CDR
7 Thabeet

And again--other than Rose--there is no PG worth taking in the top 6 and I am hoping that we can stay within the top 5 for a 7 footer. I think a lot of teams are going to start being turned off by the combo guards that have been ranked unjutifiably high and go for a higher ceiling player

After moving Thabeet lower in the draft he miraculously climbed back into the Top 7. And No you didn't have CDR as a Top 6 pick?


Twelfth Link

The title of it says
originally posted by Briggs mar 24

"What are the odds of any of these combo guards being better than Mo Williams?

Went on later in the thread to doubt Mayo or Bayless who are Top 5 lottery picks won't be better long term prospects than most of the Top Bigs in the draft.


Thirteenth Link
originally posted by Briggs Mar 22

1. Michael Beasley F
2. Derrick Rose PG
3. Javale Mcgee C/F
4. Brook Lopez C/F
5. Anthony Randolph F

Once again I'll give you credit here Randolph has been consistently in the mix but I know something ain't right we'll see what happens shortly.


Fourteenth Link
originally posted by Briggs Mar 28

Pick 1 He is pulling away from the pack at warp speed. I under rated his enormous potential a few times this year but I bow down to the number 1 pick in this draft by three lengths--MR Derrick Rose
Pick2..---tough tough call. As great a prize Mr beasley is and he sure as heck will be an offensive superstar in the pros----I have to balance the star potential of Beasley with the awesome post presence of Mr Lopez. Sorry Isiah--Channing Frye was a pssy in college and a pssy in the NBA--when you said Duncan lite you were shotting darts with a blindfold---Mr Lopez my friend is the dam closest thing to Duncan anyone as seen since Duncan came out of Wake Forest 11 years ago--winner Lopez l He's not Duncan but he's way to close to pass on at pick 2.

Pick 3. Beasley--who can I compare him to a taller Paul Pierce? Would any Knick fan be disapointed with an offensive superstar---no--we would love him but the name of the game is team ball and to me Mr Beasley does not quite fit the bill for the NY Knicks like Mr Lopez does.


as I can only be optimistic that we will be pick 1 I stop here I dont want to hear about Mike Westbrook I wont utter the name Randolph Mcgee Koufus I dont want to hear Bayless Gordon Collison

I just want to hear the NY Knicks are a top 3 pick because it's a lock winner.

Im sorry if this is my 4,000 post on the subject--Ive put hard work into this effort--as I uttered the words Bynum 1,000 times on deaf ears--I feel confident that I have these 3 pegged right. I may be the only jack that has turned beasley from 1 to 3 but that is what I believe.

Of course Rose was still alive in the tournament at the time of this post and Beasley wasn't so down drops Beasley to 3 after Brook Lopez? BTW this thread was entitled "Right Now For The Knicks Top 3." Another I picked Bynum from the beginning post


Fifteenth Link
originally posted by Briggs Apr 7

This is much better than the first one. You can clearly see there is no big man his size with his athletic ability fluidity and multiple skill sets. You can see where he will be one heckuva shotblocker and he can move on the break--post down low rebound with length hit an open J--this kid has all of the skills @ 7-0. The reason why I like the Mcgee Randolph combination[I guess in aw ay what they were trying to acheive with Curry/Chandler when they drafted them] is that both player really possess a very nice complimentary game --each has speed a multitude of skills tremendous length athletic ability ball skills--thats why if we dont get that top 2 I would be much more interested in perhaps moving a Lee[to miss paying him 10mm] have these two players develop together over the next two years and then when we add the cap room have these guys in top notch shape--I mean you are talking 7-0+ at C and 6-11 at PF who can run with guards--hard to score on in a couple of years with all that length at the basket.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=gSh4w-UPUk4

Still very high on Mcgee. Made this post later in the tread....

I think Walsh said it right--we need to address areas of concern--to me the main concern is our complete lack of ability to protect the basket. Unfortunately God only made so many athletic 7 footers in the world and we have to seriously consider with all of the size in the NBA if we are going to join that club. We are smallish in the middle and that is where a lot of problems occur. We have plenty of games where our guards hit 20+ points and we lose by 15. This guy has that athletic length but also owns a great deal of OFFENSIVE skills that appear to be just burgeoning. If we dont get Derrick Rose--Id rather go into a plan where we acquire a second pick take Mcgee and Randolph and look to the next draft for guards.

Right now I would say our guards

Crawford
Marbury
Nate
Jones
Q Rich
can put up the required points and all have contracts

What we should address is the scary C and long term PF positions if they decide they cant resign Lee for 9-10mm per. We bring in tremdous length athletiscm and abilities that just need to be strengthened and honed.

Next years draft we can look at enhance our guard positions long term--you just dont get many chances to put two big players like these guys with their speed together very often if at all. If we want to change what happens on our defense we need some guys who can disrupt the lane with length.

That would be one heckuva long frontline

Mcgee 7-0+
Randolph 6-11
Chandler 6-8

All young and can grow together and are not in the position to ask for 9-10mm like Lee can--and there will be a team that offers Lee 45+mm


It will come into play very shortly. Notice he wanting Mcgee before Randolph


Sixteenth Link
originally posted by Briggs Apr 12

PF Anthony Randolph
SF Wilson Chandler
G Russell Westbrook

Fill in the dots over time form there. IMHO--this is one heckuva young core defensively and by the time we are ready to get into the free agent market--we should have more players in slots.

Trade Lee for another high pick.

Switching it up... out Mcgee in Randolph and Westbrook but later in the thread.....
originally posted by Briggs

I would take Mcgee and Randolph but the Knicks probably wont. We need defense on the perimeter and Westbrook appears to be the best choice and fits nicely with Chandler and Randolph. I don't really want to take into consideration what we have now:) It's all about what we can have in the future and how we need to approach things--and IMHO that means finding two way players. Westbrook Chandler and Randolph represent a lot of SPEED athletic ability and two way play. We need horses--we've been playing with donkeys.

and then later again same thread...
I saw Westbrook a few times earlier in the year where he didnt look as good[or close to it] towarsd the end of the year. There is a lot of tape on Michael Westbrook and he can help the Knicks RIGHT away with his incredible speed lateral quickness and athletic ability that frankly no one in this draft can rival other than Rose. If Memphis wanted Lee for a pick last year--I will give it to them this year. I prefer Mcgee and Westbrook but I wont care if its Randolph or Mcgee either player will fit the mold. Remember its not likely we are in position to get Mayo Rose Lopez or Beasley--so if I had control of picks 5-6 I would takje westbrook[who is WAY WAY better defensively than Gordon or Bayless] and either Mcgee or Randolph--- If Mcgee comes into the camps at 250+ and keeps his explosion he will rocket up the charts --both guys are going to jump in the draft---I read the same guy from LSU who was in control of Tyrus thomas's draft and picked his number 2 position correctly already said Randolph wont last past 7.

Is anyone confused? I sure am the hell is at this point!


Seventeenth Link
originally posted by Briggs Apr 16

1.Miami--Michael Beasley F
2 Seattle-- Derrick Rose G
3 Minnesota---Brook Lopez C
4 Memphis--OJ Mayo
5 LA Clippers--Jerryd Bayless G
6 NY Knicks--Anthony Randolph F
7 Milwaukee--Russell Westbrook G
8 Charlotte--Javale Mcgee C
9 Chicago--Kevin Love C/PF
10 New Jersey--Eric Gordon--G
11 Indiana--Deandre Jordan C
12 Sacremento--DJ Augustin G
13 Portland--Chase Budinger F
14 GS-- Mareese Speights --PF
15 Phoenix --Ty Lawson G
16 Toronto --Hasheem Thabeet C
17 Phildelphia--Darrell Arthur PF
18 Washington--Roy Hibbert C
19 Cleveland--JR Giddens G
20 Denver-- Donte Green F
21 New Jersey Tyler Hansborough F
22 Orlando--Chris Douglas Roberts G
23 Seattle Robin Lopez F/C
24 Utah--Mario Chalmers G
25 Houston--Jason Thompson F
26 SA Earl Clark F
27 New Orleans Brandan Rush G
28 Memphis Joey Dorsey
29 Detroit Darren Collison G
30 Boston--Ryan Andersen F

Gets credit for picking Randolph at 6 and having us at 6 once again before the lottery positions were established.


Eighteenth Link
originally posted by Briggs May 3

Jamal Crawford for Tim Thomas and pick 7

We shouldn't give Philly... Zach and 6 for Reggie and 16, but the Clips should give us 7 and Tim Fugazy Thomas for Crawford?


Nineteenth Link
originally posted by Briggs

Kevin Love
Eric Gordon
eith of those foreign players
Deandre Jordan
DJ Augustin
Chase Budinger

The other day I posted a thread on Love and Dorsey and how Love impressed the Grizz. Love lost 15lbs , which is good but nothing earth shattering and performed well during his workout. Briggs then followed up and said...

"They Better give due diligence to bring in Love for a workout, to take a look at him and would have no problem selecting him at 6."



Wherever the wind blows I guess. If we draft Randolph and he turns out to be a great player I think you can feel a little happy about it, but regardless you were everywhere and we'll see where your ish sticks.



[Edited by - TrueBlue on 06-13-2008 12:27 PM]
LMFAO @ the Bio [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephon_Marbury[/url]
newyorknewyork
Posts: 30259
Alba Posts: 1
Joined: 1/16/2004
Member: #541
6/13/2008  1:25 PM
Thankyou because none of those links worked.
https://vote.nba.com/en Vote for your Knicks.
joec32033
Posts: 30632
Alba Posts: 37
Joined: 2/3/2004
Member: #583
USA
6/13/2008  1:28 PM
That's creepy that you kept track of all Briggs posts like that.


OTOH, I don't see dates on those posts. Everyone's draft projections are probably quite different now from what they were in Feb. or March.
~You can't run from who you are.~
TrueBlue
Posts: 29144
Alba Posts: 12
Joined: 9/20/2006
Member: #1172

6/13/2008  1:31 PM
Posted by newyorknewyork:

Thankyou because none of those links worked.

They work now there are some other gems I left out but go look at the threads for yourself. Briggs was absolutely all over the place.
LMFAO @ the Bio [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephon_Marbury[/url]
TrueBlue
Posts: 29144
Alba Posts: 12
Joined: 9/20/2006
Member: #1172

6/13/2008  1:31 PM
Posted by joec32033:

That's creepy that you kept track of all Briggs posts like that.


OTOH, I don't see dates on those posts. Everyone's draft projections are probably quite different now from what they were in Feb. or March.

The original links work now.

Translation:..."Let me watch the tournament first and then I'll proceed to change up from there"

If one knows how to truly gauge talent then they should know by March for sure and not be switching things up come April, May, June.

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 06-13-2008 12:34 PM]
LMFAO @ the Bio [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephon_Marbury[/url]
Uptown
Posts: 31378
Alba Posts: 3
Joined: 4/1/2008
Member: #1883

6/13/2008  1:32 PM
LMAO at TB......All of this was documented....WOW.......and the added commentary to build suspense.....

[Edited by - uptown on 06-13-2008 2:02 PM]
Panos
Posts: 30580
Alba Posts: 3
Joined: 1/6/2004
Member: #520
6/13/2008  1:35 PM
Can you say "STALKER?"

Briggs, you might want to get a restraining order.

[Edited by - panos on 06-13-2008 1:36 PM]
joec32033
Posts: 30632
Alba Posts: 37
Joined: 2/3/2004
Member: #583
USA
6/13/2008  1:50 PM
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by joec32033:

That's creepy that you kept track of all Briggs posts like that.


OTOH, I don't see dates on those posts. Everyone's draft projections are probably quite different now from what they were in Feb. or March.

The original links work now.

Translation:..."Let me watch the tournament first and then I'll proceed to change up from there"

If one knows how to truly gauge talent then they should know by March for sure and not be switching things up come April, May, June.

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 06-13-2008 12:34 PM]

How about pre-camp, post camp, pre official measurements, post official measurements?
~You can't run from who you are.~
MAYOOOOO

©2001-2025 ultimateknicks.comm All rights reserved. About Us.
This site is not affiliated with the NY Knicks or the National Basketball Association in any way.
You may visit the official NY Knicks web site by clicking here.

All times (GMT-05:00) Eastern Time.

Terms of Use and Privacy Policy