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BRIGGS
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4/12/2008  10:34 AM
PF Anthony Randolph
SF Wilson Chandler
G Russell Westbrook


Fill in the dots over time form there. IMHO--this is one heckuva young core defensively and by the time we are ready to get into the free agent market--we should have more players in slots.

Trade Lee for another high pick.
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4/12/2008  11:24 AM
Briggs....wasn't you against us taking another Tweener in the backcourt. Westbrook is 6'3 about a Buck '80 if that. He's no Monta Ellis either, at least at this point.

I like Westbrook as a spark off the bench, but we have a clutter of bench players on this team as is. Craw & Nate are better suited as sparks off the bench, albiet they are offensive sparks and wont bring the defensive energy that a Westbrook would bring.

If we bring in Westbrook, somehting has to give with Craw and or Nate.
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4/12/2008  11:33 AM
Posted by Uptown:

Briggs....wasn't you against us taking another Tweener in the backcourt. Westbrook is 6'3 about a Buck '80 if that. He's no Monta Ellis either, at least at this point.

I like Westbrook as a spark off the bench, but we have a clutter of bench players on this team as is. Craw & Nate are better suited as sparks off the bench, albiet they are offensive sparks and wont bring the defensive energy that a Westbrook would bring.

If we bring in Westbrook, somehting has to give with Craw and or Nate.


I would take Mcgee and Randolph but the Knicks probably wont. We need defense on the perimeter and Westbrook appears to be the best choice and fits nicely with Chandler and Randolph. I don't really want to take into consideration what we have now:) It's all about what we can have in the future and how we need to approach things--and IMHO that means finding two way players. Westbrook Chandler and Randolph represent a lot of SPEED athletic ability and two way play. We need horses--we've been playing with donkeys.
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4/12/2008  1:56 PM
Gorden will be twice the player Westbrook is. Briggs you get randolph and Mchale and Lopez in this draft. I will take Gorden, thabeet, Bayless and we will see who fares better.
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4/12/2008  2:49 PM
Posted by King1:

Gorden will be twice the player Westbrook is. Briggs you get randolph and Mchale and Lopez in this draft. I will take Gorden, thabeet, Bayless and we will see who fares better.

Gorden is nice. I think if he is on the right team he will be solid.

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4/12/2008  3:51 PM
Posted by King1:

Gorden will be twice the player Westbrook is. Briggs you get randolph and Mchale and Lopez in this draft. I will take Gorden, thabeet, Bayless and we will see who fares better.

Hasheem was only player not at a big Uconn scrimmage today--bad sign he is going to nBA--but I don't blame him. Gordon Bayless and Thabeet vs. Randolph Mcgee and Westbrook----you would probably win 3-3 but Im talking about building the Knicks team.

I do not think the Knicks will take two big men if they received another pick. If they take Westbrook and either of Randolph or Mcgee I it's a direction of team speed and defense. Thabeet would be pick 1 if his hands werent made of stone but how do you chnage that? Nah I like the skills of Mcgee or Randolph and the speed and tenacity of Westbrook[the more I watched him] Gordon and Bayless are one-dimensional players. Our Knick team is made up of too many of those types. Build the team correctly and look to add the star on top in 3 years.
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4/12/2008  7:21 PM
For me, I would love to get Bayless with our lottery pick then trade either a package built around David Lee or Curry or both to get a pick around 10-15 and use that to go after JaVale McGee. That would be incredible.

I'd like a bonafide lead guard. I'm not even gonna waste time discussing Marbury remaining a member of this team moving forward, not after that crap he pulled this year. OUTTA HERE!!!! Crawford's the best we got but he's inconsistent to put it mildly and in the right scenario he needs to be coming off the bench. After that, Nate's always gonna be real tiny and like Craw I like him coming off the bench (no need to carry both Craw and Nate eventually imo - decide on one as your scoring guard off the pine and look to unload the other). It's tough to see Nate and Mardy Collins as lead guards starting on an eventual playoff team here (though both can be useful in supporting roles - Briggs you've said you want a defensive-minded guard - that could be Mardy Collins if he ever saw decent PT to develop. Mardy's really shown me he can contribute - he's crafty, pretty smooth, can handle the ball, can get to the rim for himself or to set up others and has always been a plus defender with good size. No need to waste a lottery pick on Westbrook when we have Mardy Collins to supply some defense in the backcourt imo).

Bayless will wind up being the best of these freshman combo. guards coming out imho. His game, to me, is by far the most advanced. Absolutely nothing he can't do on the offensive end of the floor. Decent size (6'3") that's very good for a 1, not terrible for a 2. Very strong. More than a decent defender. And I think he showed that he does possess emerging PG skills. I realize Marbury's a trainwreck, so forget him for a second with regarding scoring PGs. There's nothing really wrong with having a lead guard with a scoring mentality. Miami just won a championship recently with Dwyane Wade who's not your prototypical old-school PG. And they beat Dallas who were one of the better teams in the league before Kidd with Jason Terry (shooter) and Devin Harris (slasher), both aggressive offensive players that look for their own when it's there. Isiah just praised Bibby for last night's Hawks win over the Knicks for his heady play. Make no mistake though, Bibby's a scorer. Been a scorer on every team he's ever been on. Denver has AI and most likely going to the playoffs. Chris Paul's a scorer. So is Deron Williams.

My whole point is I wouldn't be afraid to draft Bayless just because he's been tabbed a "combo guard" & a "scoring guard." He did an excellent job taking the reins at the point when the Wildcats playmaker suffered the injury, showing real maturity and developing PG skills before our very eyes. He was thrust into a very hard role where a lot was expected of him right off the bat as a freshman and he excelled big-time. The team was nothing w/o him in the lineup. I personally think he'll be a better pro than Rose, Mayo and Gordon, but that's me...

*Our pick - Jerryd Bayless - a lead guard with an incredible future
*Shop a Lee/filler, Curry/filler package for an additional high 1st rounder if possible 10-12 & draft JaVale McGee - a two-way legit 7 footer with unbelievable athletic ability, talent and potential
*Offer the mid-level to JR Smith

Jerryd Bayless, Javale McGee and JR Smith. That's a homerun of an off-season right there.





[Edited by - finestrg on 04-12-2008 7:32 PM]
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4/12/2008  7:31 PM
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Posted by Finestrg:

For me, I would love to get Bayless with our lottery pick then trade either a package built around David Lee or Curry or both to get a pick around 10-15 and use that to go after JaVale McGee. That would be incredible.

I'd like a bonafide lead guard. I'm not even gonna waste time discussing Marbury remaining a member of this team moving forward, not after that crap he pulled this year. OUTTA HERE!!!! Crawford's the best we got but he's inconsistent to put it mildly and in the right scenario he needs to be coming off the bench. After that, Nate's always gonna be real tiny and like Craw I like him coming off the bench (no need to carry both Craw and Nate eventually imo - decide on one as your scoring guard off the pine and look to unload the other). It's tough to see Nate and Mardy Collins as lead guards starting on an eventual playoff team here (though both can be useful in supporting roles - Briggs you've said you want a defensive-minded guard - that could be Mardy Collins if he ever saw decent PT to develop. Mardy's really shown me he can contribute - he's crafty, pretty smooth, can handle the ball, can get to the rim for himself or to set up others and has always been a plus defender with good size. No need to waste a lottery pick on Westbrook when we have Mardy Collins to supply some defense in the backcourt imo).

Bayless will wind up being the best of these freshman combo. guards coming out imho. His game, to me, is by far the most advanced. Absolutely nothing he can't do on the offensive end of the floor. Decent size (6'3") that's very good for a 1, not terrible for a 2. Very strong. More than a decent defender. And I think he showed that he does possess emerging PG skills. I realize Marbury's a trainwreck, so forget him for a second. There's nothing really wrong with having a lead guard with a scoring mentality. Miami just won a championship recently with Dwyane Wade who's not your prototypical old-school PG. And they beat Dallas who were one of the better teams in the league before Kidd with Jason Terry (shooter) and Devin Harris (slasher), both aggressive offensive players that look for their own when it's there. Isiah just praised Bibby for last night's Hawks win over the Knicks for his heady play. Make no mistake though, Bibby's a scorer. Been a scorer on every team he's ever been on. Denver has AI and most likely going to the playoffs. Chris Paul's a scorer. So is Deron Williams.

My whole point is I wouldn't be afraid to draft Bayless just because he's been tabbed a "combo guard" & a "scoring guard." He did an excellent job taking the reins at the point when the Wildcats playmaker suffered the injury, showing real maturity and developing PG skills before our very eyes. He was thrust into a very hard role where a lot was expected of him right off the bat as a freshman and he excelled big-time. The team was nothing w/o him in the lineup. I personally think he'll be a better pro than Rose, Mayo and Gordon, but that's me...

*Our pick - Jerryd Bayless - a lead guard with an incredible future
*Shop a Lee/filler, Curry/filler package for an additional high 1st rounder if possible 10-12 & draft JaVale McGee - a two-way legit 7 footer bursting with athletic ability, talent and potential
*Offer the mid-level to JR Smith




I saw Westbrook a few times earlier in the year where he didnt look as good[or close to it] towarsd the end of the year. There is a lot of tape on Michael Westbrook and he can help the Knicks RIGHT away with his incredible speed lateral quickness and athletic ability that frankly no one in this draft can rival other than Rose. If Memphis wanted Lee for a pick last year--I will give it to them this year. I prefer Mcgee and Westbrook but I wont care if its Randolph or Mcgee either player will fit the mold. Remember its not likely we are in position to get Mayo Rose Lopez or Beasley--so if I had control of picks 5-6 I would takje westbrook[who is WAY WAY better defensively than Gordon or Bayless] and either Mcgee or Randolph--- If Mcgee comes into the camps at 250+ and keeps his explosion he will rocket up the charts --both guys are going to jump in the draft---I read the same guy from LSU who was in control of Tyrus thomas's draft and picked his number 2 position correctly already said Randolph wont last past 7.
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4/12/2008  7:53 PM
UGH. You said core, then you had Wilson Chandler in there. Epic fail.
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4/12/2008  9:12 PM
how about any core?
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4/12/2008  10:53 PM
Posted by fishmike:

how about any core?

We have one. Rotten core.
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4/12/2008  10:58 PM
any kinda core except for an encore
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4/13/2008  12:22 AM
Westbrook would be great with nate. His length will let him defend the sg position. Shit we shouldn't even be talking about this until we get a pick higher than 4.
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