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BRIGGS
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2/18/2022  10:46 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/18/2022  10:48 PM
Balance defensive roster with more size. Find a healthy pro pg. we’ve drafted 3 Pgs and Pgs take more time than centers to develop. Develop what we have. Continually changing coaches is just as detrimental. Thibs takes blane for losing huge leads— that’s the captain and he did not save the ship. But we got the leads in first place from good play. We need adjustments. From thibs too. WhT happens is these guys play too many minutes and flame out. Most of ne t year we need to find a way to keep minutes down for our main players
Balance roster next year. More size and efficiency
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2/19/2022  3:44 AM    LAST EDITED: 2/19/2022  3:52 AM
BRIGGS wrote:Balance defensive roster with more size. Find a healthy pro pg. we’ve drafted 3 Pgs and Pgs take more time than centers to develop. Develop what we have. Continually changing coaches is just as detrimental. Thibs takes blane for losing huge leads— that’s the captain and he did not save the ship. But we got the leads in first place from good play. We need adjustments. From thibs too. WhT happens is these guys play too many minutes and flame out. Most of ne t year we need to find a way to keep minutes down for our main players
Balance roster next year. More size and efficiency

You were arguing the exact opposite a week ago

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=64723

and

Derrick Rose was like the 2014 run. Other than 2014 we were better. An older vet propped up the entire team past what the reality was. Thibs got coach of year. But reality is Derrick Rose gave us an unsustainable short term pop. I believed it too as I drank the cool aid so not throwing anyone under the bridge. But everything we did off-season was based on we that run. That Derrick Rose and kemba Walker could each play 60-65 games healthy. ThT Fournier wouod give us a needed fourth jettison
But the reality is every single move was a bust.The house was built needing Derrick Rose 2020 and it’s not getting that. All the vets like 2014 is busting
Noel -bust
Burks- bust
Fournier - bust
Rose— bust
Walker— bust
Randle —for the most part bust
Draft picks — at this point just unknown fair decent some possibilities

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=64700

Genuine question (though it probably sounds like a criticism!)- why don't you keep your 180 degree turns to the previous threads you created, and explain why you've completely changed your mind- it would be much more interesting than randomly starting threads completely changing what you said with no bridge or acknowledgement whatsoever as to why you've completely changed your mind.

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2/19/2022  7:49 AM    LAST EDITED: 2/19/2022  7:50 AM
BRIGGS wrote:Balance defensive roster with more size. Find a healthy pro pg. we’ve drafted 3 Pgs and Pgs take more time than centers to develop. Develop what we have. Continually changing coaches is just as detrimental. Thibs takes blane for losing huge leads— that’s the captain and he did not save the ship. But we got the leads in first place from good play. We need adjustments. From thibs too. WhT happens is these guys play too many minutes and flame out. Most of ne t year we need to find a way to keep minutes down for our main players
Balance roster next year. More size and efficiency

One of my favorite scenarios for this summer is to use second round picks to clear Burks, Walker and Noel contracts, draft Walker Kessler, and sign Jalen Brunson. I’d like to see us run back with that team, not because I expect a contender or anything , but simply to see if we can move back into a positive direction with a real PG and more versatility at center. Resign Mitch obviously too.

C Robinson/ Kessler
PF Randle/ Toppin
SF Barrett/ Grimes/ Reddish
SG Fournier/ IQ
PG Brunson/ Rose

We would still need to move on from Fournier for reddish to get a real opportunity but you get the idea. In that scenario Grimes would be the starting SG and reddish backup SF.

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2/21/2022  11:52 AM
We already have a balanced roster. Thibs is just obsessed with playing vets waaayyy too much while young guys like Obi and cam barely get minutes and Deuce is in westchester
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2/21/2022  11:59 AM    LAST EDITED: 2/21/2022  12:03 PM
Philc1 wrote:We already have a balanced roster. Thibs is just obsessed with playing vets waaayyy too much while young guys like Obi and cam barely get minutes and Deuce is in westchester

I would add he does not even mix and match players to see if some fit better with others. It is one rotation and that is pretty much it for the year unless forced to temporarily change. He won't change roles with his set rotations either. Lets keep using Taj for Picks while the poor 3pt shooter Obi is stuck on the 3pt line the whole 8 minutes he gets to play.
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3/3/2022  6:48 PM
BRIGGS wrote:Balance defensive roster with more size. Find a healthy pro pg. we’ve drafted 3 Pgs and Pgs take more time than centers to develop. Develop what we have. Continually changing coaches is just as detrimental. Thibs takes blane for losing huge leads— that’s the captain and he did not save the ship. But we got the leads in first place from good play. We need adjustments. From thibs too. WhT happens is these guys play too many minutes and flame out. Most of ne t year we need to find a way to keep minutes down for our main players
Balance roster next year. More size and efficiency

There's a lot of heat to replace Thibs and lots of noise about a young "core". I don't think Thibs is on his way out and I don't think we have a core at all.

We have a team of role players and Barrett. The age of the role players is irrelevant. I think the FO needs to [obviously] take advantage of the draft to the degree they can BUT, BUT they need to move bodies and assets to get NBA quality starters in here for Thibs to work with.

Until its not a Thibs team, its a Thibs team and mismatching him with a handful of average draft picks, Randle, and a bag of chips is a recipe for more failure, his firing, and another FO reset. Personally I'm sick of it.

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3/3/2022  8:32 PM
The front office has chosen bad players at every turn and with every resource so far with the exception of Grimes. That's what the issue is, and they should move on from Leon Rose and let somebody else who can do it better choose.
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3/3/2022  11:00 PM
fwk00 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:Balance defensive roster with more size. Find a healthy pro pg. we’ve drafted 3 Pgs and Pgs take more time than centers to develop. Develop what we have. Continually changing coaches is just as detrimental. Thibs takes blane for losing huge leads— that’s the captain and he did not save the ship. But we got the leads in first place from good play. We need adjustments. From thibs too. WhT happens is these guys play too many minutes and flame out. Most of ne t year we need to find a way to keep minutes down for our main players
Balance roster next year. More size and efficiency

There's a lot of heat to replace Thibs and lots of noise about a young "core". I don't think Thibs is on his way out and I don't think we have a core at all.

We have a team of role players and Barrett. The age of the role players is irrelevant. I think the FO needs to [obviously] take advantage of the draft to the degree they can BUT, BUT they need to move bodies and assets to get NBA quality starters in here for Thibs to work with.

Until its not a Thibs team, its a Thibs team and mismatching him with a handful of average draft picks, Randle, and a bag of chips is a recipe for more failure, his firing, and another FO reset. Personally I'm sick of it.

As lousy as Thibs has been this year he earned a third season after making the playoffs last year. I have zero confidence in this franchise finding a better coach.


This summer it’s up to Rose/Perry to find a pg(really we need 2 point guards a starter and a backup) and lock up Mitch long term or at least use him as trade bait. Maybe we finally get lucky in the draft but I seriously doubt it

Keep thibs balance roster

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