We didn't open a roster spot for Cam and Rose is due back in a couple weeks.

Even if we bench Kemba, Cam is not a pg, and Burks and IQ absolute struggle playing the position.

The only way to play Cam is to completely shut down GRIMES or OBI...and that would drive the HOMERS crazy

BRIGGS wrote:I think that’s a fair bottom line. If he can keep it up and we get Rose back healthy— we have a deep enough team to carry a final sprint into playoffs. He was exactly right too— if things broke right we were 3-1 instead of 1-3. I’m glad thibs was finally forced to try out cam reddish and I think a fair assessment is we need to keep him in the line up. We used expensive capital on him and he Shouod fairly be part of the team if he contributes like that

Knicks need to make some hard choices when the team is fully healthy. Abandon Kemba and force Randle to run. We need a Pg but we simply don’t have one besides a healthy Rose. My fully healthy rotation is this.

C Robinson/ Gibson
PF Randle/ Reddish
SF Barrett/ Grimes
SG Fournier/ Quickley
PG Burks/ Rose

I’m playing those 10. If Quickley doesn’t play well in the first half I’ll cut down to the other 9 for the second half. Need to play Grimes and reddish extended minutes to get their rhythm. Rotations being tight hurts and last night we saw what happens when guys play enough to get into rhythm. And of course push Randle to run like crazy. He is playing looser and without overthinking. That’s all he needs to do.

martin wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:I think that’s a fair bottom line. If he can keep it up and we get Rose back healthy— we have a deep enough team to carry a final sprint into playoffs. He was exactly right too— if things broke right we were 3-1 instead of 1-3. I’m glad thibs was finally forced to try out cam reddish and I think a fair assessment is we need to keep him in the line up. We used expensive capital on him and he Shouod fairly be part of the team if he contributes like that

Knicks need to make some hard choices when the team is fully healthy. Abandon Kemba and force Randle to run. We need a Pg but we simply don’t have one besides a healthy Rose. My fully healthy rotation is this.

C Robinson/ Gibson
PF Randle/ Reddish
SF Barrett/ Grimes
SG Fournier/ Quickley
PG Burks/ Rose

I’m playing those 10. If Quickley doesn’t play well in the first half I’ll cut down to the other 9 for the second half. Need to play Grimes and reddish extended minutes to get their rhythm. Rotations being tight hurts and last night we saw what happens when guys play enough to get into rhythm. And of course push Randle to run like crazy. He is playing looser and without overthinking. That’s all he needs to do.

You are harder on Obi than Thibs

I wish the rotation wasn’t so tight, but as this team is currently constructed he can’t make a big impact. If he could score in the post or defend fours well I’d be more optimistic but given his age and limitations and given Reddish and Grimes 2-way ability and age I just have more faith in them as 2-way impact players.

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https://twitter.com/TommyBeer/status/1492009276180684800

I just seen this tweet and he asks a really good question. Randle has pushed the ball in transition more this road trip than he has the whole season before the road trip.

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Uptown wrote:We've seen this Julius for the last 6 games and we are 2-4. If we get into the play-in that means we will surpass a team that is above us. Who are we passing? Hawks, I believe are 9-3 over their last 12. If they remain healthy, they will definitely finish above .500 and grab a spot. So, are you predicting that Charlotte will continue to free-fall?

If Randle had played with this type of effort and energy from jump, we wouldn't be on the outside looking in....

Im thinking the Nets Charlotte and washington all vulnerable. I mean its kind of cheap if u cant make 8 seed(I dont like play in) but thats not where we are. Wve gotto have a 5-7 game winning streak couple with .500 ball .5000 gets us in.

Nets have lost 10 straight. I imagine with Simmons & Durant back at some point, they don’t miss the play offs. I’m sure KP will fix the Wizards, so we got a shot to pass them for sure. Charlotte has been good. They’re 500 and we are not a 500 team. we’re 6 under, and unless we start playing great ball consistently, we won’t get there. I’m sure we’ll make it close, and if there is a chance to miss out on a franchise talent, we’ll win meaningless games down the stretch as other teams rest ahead of the play offs.

franco12 wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

Uptown wrote:We've seen this Julius for the last 6 games and we are 2-4. If we get into the play-in that means we will surpass a team that is above us. Who are we passing? Hawks, I believe are 9-3 over their last 12. If they remain healthy, they will definitely finish above .500 and grab a spot. So, are you predicting that Charlotte will continue to free-fall?

If Randle had played with this type of effort and energy from jump, we wouldn't be on the outside looking in....

Im thinking the Nets Charlotte and washington all vulnerable. I mean its kind of cheap if u cant make 8 seed(I dont like play in) but thats not where we are. Wve gotto have a 5-7 game winning streak couple with .500 ball .5000 gets us in.

Nets have lost 10 straight. I imagine with Simmons & Durant back at some point, they don’t miss the play offs. I’m sure KP will fix the Wizards, so we got a shot to pass them for sure. Charlotte has been good. They’re 500 and we are not a 500 team. we’re 6 under, and unless we start playing great ball consistently, we won’t get there. I’m sure we’ll make it close, and if there is a chance to miss out on a franchise talent, we’ll win meaningless games down the stretch as other teams rest ahead of the play offs.

Not sure of KDs timetable but he will be back at some point and I can't imagine them falling out of the play in. Washington is on the outside looking in with us...Charlotte is the only possibility as they have been struggling. We will have to go on a streak while the Hornets continue to nose dive...Jeep in mind, we till have another west cost trip after the allstar break...

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BRIGGS wrote:I think that’s a fair bottom line. If he can keep it up and we get Rose back healthy— we have a deep enough team to carry a final sprint into playoffs. He was exactly right too— if things broke right we were 3-1 instead of 1-3. I’m glad thibs was finally forced to try out cam reddish and I think a fair assessment is we need to keep him in the line up. We used expensive capital on him and he Shouod fairly be part of the team if he contributes like that

Wasn’t it only 2 days ago you started a thread saying the Rose trade was a curse? I find it hard to keep up with. You said everyone was bust, now you’re saying we have a deep team.

Derrick Rose was like the 2014 run. Other than 2014 we were better. An older vet propped up the entire team past what the reality was. Thibs got coach of year. But reality is Derrick Rose gave us an unsustainable short term pop. I believed it too as I drank the cool aid so not throwing anyone under the bridge. But everything we did off-season was based on we that run. That Derrick Rose and kemba Walker could each play 60-65 games healthy. ThT Fournier wouod give us a needed fourth jettison
But the reality is every single move was a bust.The house was built needing Derrick Rose 2020 and it’s not getting that. All the vets like 2014 is busting
Noel -bust
Burks- bust
Fournier - bust
Rose— bust
Walker— bust
Randle —for the most part bust
Draft picks — at this point just unknown fair decent some possibilities

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=64700

That was so 2 days ago though, keep up

Lots of ifs but all reachable.

Then u need certain teams to lose.

More ifs

I personally don’t see the advantage in running the vets until their tires fall off. We make the playoffs and get swept OR we barely miss the playoffs and burn out our veteran trade assets.

Neither option that involves playing vets is not worth it to me. I think with so much youth on the team, why not make up a damn Covid contact case. And mix in these young guys like grimes and cam. Find the right mix with the youths so we can go into the summer focusing on making that better.

Like is it possible to build a team around RJ and Randle? I don’t think we can answer that. Cam looks good and EF is stroking. Mix in cam and grimes or whoever.

HofstraBBall wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:I think that’s a fair bottom line. If he can keep it up and we get Rose back healthy— we have a deep enough team to carry a final sprint into playoffs. He was exactly right too— if things broke right we were 3-1 instead of 1-3. I’m glad thibs was finally forced to try out cam reddish and I think a fair assessment is we need to keep him in the line up. We used expensive capital on him and he Shouod fairly be part of the team if he contributes like that

Wasn’t it only 2 days ago you started a thread saying the Rose trade was a curse? I find it hard to keep up with. You said everyone was bust, now you’re saying we have a deep team.

Derrick Rose was like the 2014 run. Other than 2014 we were better. An older vet propped up the entire team past what the reality was. Thibs got coach of year. But reality is Derrick Rose gave us an unsustainable short term pop. I believed it too as I drank the cool aid so not throwing anyone under the bridge. But everything we did off-season was based on we that run. That Derrick Rose and kemba Walker could each play 60-65 games healthy. ThT Fournier wouod give us a needed fourth jettison
But the reality is every single move was a bust.The house was built needing Derrick Rose 2020 and it’s not getting that. All the vets like 2014 is busting
Noel -bust
Burks- bust
Fournier - bust
Rose— bust
Walker— bust
Randle —for the most part bust
Draft picks — at this point just unknown fair decent some possibilities

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=64700

You do know Briggs has the right to change his stance every hour of so? Which he takes full advantage of.

Have said all year that this team goes as Randle does. Along with our three point shooting. Fans do not understand that team success depends on their best player. Coaches do. Reason why Thibs rode Randle hoping he would turn it around. He knows quite well that Obi and the other fan hopefuls wont cut it.

In terms of making the playoffs, gotta say that we are not passing the Nets who still have yet to have their best players on the court. Nor are we passing the Celtics who are hot and just got better at the trade deadline. Raptors have lost 1 game in last 10. So there is that. The Knicks may go on a run but just do not see any of the 5 to 10 place teams going into a free fall. This is no longer the East of yesteryear.

Not sure how hard it's going to be to pass the Nets who are actually freefalling, unless 10 game losing streaks have some other definition, and I'm going to imagine that King of Rust Ben Simmons is going to possibly tear a hamstring or something else trying to do too much too soon. Most likely in practice, and not even make it to playing actual games. Wishful hate thinking on my part, but it is what it be. Watching a Nets Superfriends thing blow up like this again is a very real possibility.

Meanwhile Philly gets a nice warmed up Harden who will shoot the ball at any and every opportunity. Advantage Philly. I'm really starting to hate the Process monster that Embiid has become.

Washington was top 5 at some point early in the season, and Charlotte doesn't scare me, and once again, we own Atlanta in the regular season. 5 games left total against those last two.

And once we make the playoffs, don't forget we have the Original Celtic Kryptonite in SuperEvan.

NYKMentality wrote:C: Mitchell Robinson.
PF: Julius Randle.
SF: Cam Reddish.
SG: R.J. Barrett.
PG: Derrick Rose.

Wishful thinking.

Thibs tends to stick to his lineups. The only reason he cast out Kemba is b/c he has not been a good fit from the get go and Rose has been the complete opposite- a perfect fit.