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9/30/2008  3:34 PM
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Quick first-day impressions _ but no Curry
Mike D'Antoni's first preseason practice ended around lunch-time Tuesday and here's the biggest piece of news that came out of it:

Jerome James ran. A lot. At what passes for almost full speed for the Big Lad.

That makes it 1-of-4 camps as a Knick that he has either practiced at all or not got hurt during the first practice.

Although we didn't have a monitor on his heart rate, in which the over-under while he was going up and down in 3-on-2 drills was probably in the mid-100s.

The other guy who needs to run, though, Eddy Curry, developed a fever late Monday according to the team and thus didn't work out Tuesday morning. It's uncertain when he will _ but every day he misses, of course, doesn't help what D'Antoni and Donnie Walsh have said isn't a player in prime condition.

Danilo Gallinari, meanwhile, spent much of his practice on the Jerome James Honorary Stationary Bike with what Walsh said he was told was originally a bulging disk in the rookie's back, not the sciatica as one writer speculated in his Tuesday story.

Whatever. Most fans would probably rather see Gallinari running and Jerome biking, but that's the way it was. And, FYI, Jerome has no intention of retiring because of his knee issues, thus exiting the Knicks' roster and eventually their salary cap.

As for all the running in general that D'Antoni promised and his players expected, it was what one player called "smart running," not the seemingly mindless sprints that most coaches run _ including Byron Scott, for instance, his first day as Nets coach when he tried to emulate his mentor Pat Riley. B-Scott was so proud that several of his players lost their lunches during and after practice.

D'Antoni's running, meanwhile, comes in the context of basketball activity, drills and such. When reporters were let in the gym Tuesday morning, his players were running up and down in a 3-on-2 drill and then a three-man weave-like drill without a defense, not quite at full speed, but rather quickly, and kept going for more than a half-hour.

"I hated them when I was a player," D'Antoni said of the mindless sprints.

Thus, unless they did it out of sight of reporters, nobody lost their lunch at D'Antoni's first workout.

His second, Tuesday evening, was to feature more scrimmaging, the first indication of what he might be thinking in terms of a starting five, although he said not to put much stock in the units he runs out.

He did say Stephon Marbury, who was swarmed by area reporters, but basically ignored by all but one or two New York-area writers, spent some time at point and shooting guard. Marbury also didn't seem much different than any of his teammates during the portion of the workout reporters were able to watch, chatting with teammates and doing whatever the others did _ although at one point, Nate Robinson danced around him, almost close enough to give him a kiss, without saying anything.

The night practice, meanwhile, was to be open to reporters, a departure from the team's long-held practice of no access the second workout of the day. What a concept ... openness.

At least in that regard, it's a new era, and when D'Antoni spoke of it in terms of the attention he got from his players, he admitted he could've told them to jump off the top of the bleachers and they would've done it, so happy are they to hear a different voice preaching a different way to play.

"They're ready to change and they're ready to play well," he said, "ready to try something different. ... They want hope."

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9/30/2008  3:40 PM
I can't go nuts over anything, but it's nice to finally have a camp that is run like a camp should be and not like camp marshmallow.
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9/30/2008  3:41 PM
I was happy to hear that Zach was running well and pretty much everything seemed to go fine. I also took this quip from Alan Hahn's blog:

* - One thing you immediately notice about Allan Houston is he doesn't run with the gimp he had in his gait during his short comeback attempt last season. He runs fluidly, though doesn't have a great burst of speed nor can he stop and pop on a dime. But he can shoot it. I don't recall seeing him miss in the drills this morning.
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9/30/2008  3:45 PM
"They're ready to change and they're ready to play well," he said, "ready to try something different. ... They want hope."
This is what I had been picking up from most of the players. Good to see.....and I "hope" it continues.
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9/30/2008  3:57 PM
Posted by nixluva:

I was happy to hear that Zach was running well and pretty much everything seemed to go fine. I also took this quip from Alan Hahn's blog:

* - One thing you immediately notice about Allan Houston is he doesn't run with the gimp he had in his gait during his short comeback attempt last season. He runs fluidly, though doesn't have a great burst of speed nor can he stop and pop on a dime. But he can shoot it. I don't recall seeing him miss in the drills this morning.

I'd love to see Allan back with this team. It would be nice.

It's also great to hear that Zach is being a good soldier so far(although its obviously only the beginning).

If Zach gets through the year with no problems and does his 20/10 then I think his value has been effectively raised and he will be quite tradable. I will then applaud Donnie for standing firm and waiting for a better deal. That of course is a long ways off though.
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9/30/2008  4:08 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by nixluva:

I was happy to hear that Zach was running well and pretty much everything seemed to go fine. I also took this quip from Alan Hahn's blog:

* - One thing you immediately notice about Allan Houston is he doesn't run with the gimp he had in his gait during his short comeback attempt last season. He runs fluidly, though doesn't have a great burst of speed nor can he stop and pop on a dime. But he can shoot it. I don't recall seeing him miss in the drills this morning.

I'd love to see Allan back with this team. It would be nice.

It's also great to hear that Zach is being a good soldier so far(although its obviously only the beginning).

If Zach gets through the year with no problems and does his 20/10 then I think his value has been effectively raised and he will be quite tradable. I will then applaud Donnie for standing firm and waiting for a better deal. That of course is a long ways off though.
Well at least we know that seems to be the plan. If he's a good soldier and we win more games, then Zach will be easier to move. That in addition to another year coming off of his contract should be enough to make him moveable.
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9/30/2008  5:27 PM
LOL, taking shots at Riley and Scott. Two coaches that got the most of teams and actually took their respective teams to the NBA finals. Please impress me D'Antonio by illustrating to your players how to protect the paint and prevent the easy threes until then this is all bull****.
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9/30/2008  5:29 PM
Posted by Pharzeone:

LOL, taking shots at Riley and Scott. Two coaches that got the most of teams and actually took their respective teams to the NBA finals. Please impress me D'Antonio by illustrating to your players how to protect the paint and prevent the easy threes until then this is all bull****.

I don't think D'Antoni was the one to mention Byronn Scott or Pat Riley, I believe the author added their names in as examples of what people would consider "mindless running"
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9/30/2008  6:48 PM
It was the writer who said it and he sounds like someone who has never had to actually play a real game of 94 x 50 basketball for any extended length of time. Say what you want about Byron as a coach, but when have his teams ever been out of shape? I won't even bother to ask the question about Riles.

Just because coaches do things differently doesn't mean there's a right or a wrong. These writers kill me. There's more than one way to do things. You don't have to down someone else who's arguably been just as (Byron) or more (Riles) successful than the person you're trying to big up.
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9/30/2008  7:42 PM
I would think Lee, Jeffries, Quentin, Jamal, and Duhon would go against Rose, Z-Bo, Steph, Wilson, and Nate tonight. You have one team built on team work and the other built on individual talent. Will be interesting what team plays better.
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9/30/2008  8:11 PM
Posted by King1:

I would think Lee, Jeffries, Quentin, Jamal, and Duhon would go against Rose, Z-Bo, Steph, Wilson, and Nate tonight. You have one team built on team work and the other built on individual talent. Will be interesting what team plays better.

Wow, those are not how I envisioned the lineups to be. I am surprised both Zach/Wilson are out of the starting lineup.
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9/30/2008  9:59 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by King1:

I would think Lee, Jeffries, Quentin, Jamal, and Duhon would go against Rose, Z-Bo, Steph, Wilson, and Nate tonight. You have one team built on team work and the other built on individual talent. Will be interesting what team plays better.
Wow, those are not how I envisioned the lineups to be. I am surprised both Zach/Wilson are out of the starting lineup.
They said the press is allowed so we will get to read articles about this. I cannot wait! He is starting Jeffries next to Lee? Really? I guess we can say goodbye to post up.
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