| Author | Poll |
| Author | Thread |
| AUTOADVERT |
|
WaltLongmire
Posts: 27623 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 6/28/2014 Member: #5843 |
11/19/2015 11:31 AM LAST EDITED: 11/19/2015 11:50 AM
holfresh wrote:martin wrote:holfresh wrote:gunsnewing wrote:mreinman wrote:nyk4ever wrote:the beauty of "who would we take at #2" is if we actually DID have the #2 pick in the draft, im pretty sure we would have drafted okafor or russell and honestly, i think porzingis is better than everyone, maybe even towns. so in effect, winning those couple games at the end of the year actually helped the knicks because it made it easier to select porzingis at 4 rather than 2. Grant plays a completely different position than THJ-Atlanta does not really need another PG although I read that they were interested in Payne, who was gone before pick 15...the real question is about why THJ is not playing, and whether it might have anything to do with why Phil traded him. Any significant thoughts on why he isn't playing in Atlanta, since you seem to have a higher opinion of him than two sets of coaches? Atlanta had pick 15, and could have had prospects like Rashad Vaughn or Portis if they had kept the pick, so they seemed to believe that THJ could help replace the impending loss of Carroll. He might still emerge as a good player for them, but I find it surprising that he's been buried on their roster so far.
Said this once before...draft picks are like children for a fan- you always overreact when they do things for the first time, and you tend use a great deal of hyperbole when describing them. Nothing out of the ordinary, as you yourself pointed out in an analogy at some point. You just seem to have affection for guys we did not, or could not, draft. A lot of folks were against the KP pick. Some have admitted they overreacted...some have said he's better than they thought. I could be wrong, but I would think that someone who had your draft day (and later) reactions to Phil picking KP http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=51638
http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=52066&page=1which is fine, but at some point your comments sound as if they are coming from a troll, and people are reacting to them in the same way you would react to how some (including myself) have gone after Anthony at times. And this kind of thread is also a backhanded method of attacking Porzingis, even though you would just say you're reporting the "news." Talking about KPs existing flaws is one thing, but in the past you've attempted to portray the guy as a child who should be coddled by Fisher and given minutes sparingly, or as a guy who was knocked about like a rag doll in SL. After the Cavs game you cherry-picked some poor play and seemed to forget that he had almost completely neutralized Love's game on the offensive end and had a pretty good game. I could go on about Mudiay's flaws ad nauseam...talk about the fact that he may be the worst on ball defender I've seen in the NBA, but what's the point- he's still young and he's not on my team. You have no issues taking shots at Porzingis, though. I do know one thing for sure- you would be chirping like a CO2 alarm in need of a battery if Porzingis looked like he needed another 3 years to develop and Mudiay was shooting over 31% and not playing CBA style D in the mile high city. I dreaded the thought of having to "go to battle" in support of KP if he seemed like he was not ready for this league. Thankfully for me, he's been a dream rookie starting with his play in SL, and he appears to be getting better. You seem totally unwilling to give credit where credit is due, or speculate that even though we "tanked on the tank," we might have lucked out and gotten a player who can be something special down the road. Lots of folks besides guys on this forum are taking notice of him, and the term "franchise player" has been uttered by many in the media and NBA community when commenting on Porzingis. No Darko/Bargs talk and no laughing at Phil's pick. The only laughter is being directed toward that know nothing dad and his selfie son who you gave a shout out to on draft night and empathized with: http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=51624 From what I've read you seem to have an interest in certain players which overrides any loyalty to this team. That's fine, but it would seem that you reserve many of your most spirited comments to defend guys we got rid of or being critical of players now on the team. I know that if we had taken Mudiay, Winslow, or even the dreaded Stein, I would have been pissed off, tried to figure out why Phil took the player he took, and then gone on being a Knicks fan and supporting the player. Did that with Hill, who I definitely did not want a few years ago, and with Shumpert. There is frequently some self-deception involved if you are a fan, but that is part of supporting a team, I suppose. In KP we seem to have gotten a kid who is a competitor and a baller, as well as an intelligent gym rat. Grant was a successful college player and leader who is still looking for a comfort zone on this team and some NBA confidence. These guys are a large part of this team's future at this moment, and KP looks like a guy you can build a team around. Might be time to come to terms with the fact that comparisons with other picks aside...we got what appears to be a franchise quality player in KP. Still a long way to go, but the fact that we can imagine him being a top 10 star in the league at some point does not sound as ridiculous as it might have sounded on draft night. EnySpree: Can we agree to agree not to mention Phil Jackson and triangle for the rest of our lives?
|