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holfresh wrote:Phil slipped and said we will see in five years then said one year later in the interview..I see Shawn Bradley..Too skinny to man the middle..

He was responding to a "best man in the draft" question. Not sure you can determine that in one or two years.

You just want to see constant improvement from a player.

Why not give him some time?

I'm sure some of you will jump on him if he doesn't meet your expectations in SL, which is just foolish, of course, but we know its going to happen.

WaltLongmire wrote:

holfresh wrote:Phil slipped and said we will see in five years then said one year later in the interview..I see Shawn Bradley..Too skinny to man the middle..

He was responding to a "best man in the draft" question. Not sure you can determine that in one or two years.

You just want to see constant improvement from a player.

Why not give him some time?

I'm sure some of you will jump on him if he doesn't meet your expectations in SL, which is just foolish, of course, but we know its going to happen.

When he first took over he wasn't talking about give him time to rebuild.. He was talking playoffs..When did that change?..They undermined Woodson in December after he won 54 games..

CrushAlot wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

holfresh wrote:Phil slipped and said we will see in five years then said one year later in the interview..I see Shawn Bradley..Too skinny to man the middle..

He was responding to a "best man in the draft" question. Not sure you can determine that in one or two years.

You just want to see constant improvement from a player.

Why not give him some time?

I'm sure some of you will jump on him if he doesn't meet your expectations in SL, which is just foolish, of course, but we know its going to happen.

cant blame people for skepticism. I agree his upside is very high BUT the risk is just as high.

Isola is relatively positive about the pick and he usually takes any opportunity to take cheap shots.

StarksEwing1 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

holfresh wrote:Phil slipped and said we will see in five years then said one year later in the interview..I see Shawn Bradley..Too skinny to man the middle..

He was responding to a "best man in the draft" question. Not sure you can determine that in one or two years.

You just want to see constant improvement from a player.

Why not give him some time?

I'm sure some of you will jump on him if he doesn't meet your expectations in SL, which is just foolish, of course, but we know its going to happen.

cant blame people for skepticism. I agree his upside is very high BUT the risk is just as high.

Isola is relatively positive about the pick and he usually takes any opportunity to take cheap shots.

again who cares about journalists. I understand people who love the pick want the whole fanbase to love it but thats just not realistic

Isola and Berman love to take shots at the Knicks.

I think Isola met Porzingis and was impressed.

These are not guys trying to please the fan base...they're the ones in the front of that pitchfork crowd up above.

WaltLongmire wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

holfresh wrote:Phil slipped and said we will see in five years then said one year later in the interview..I see Shawn Bradley..Too skinny to man the middle..

He was responding to a "best man in the draft" question. Not sure you can determine that in one or two years.

You just want to see constant improvement from a player.

Why not give him some time?

I'm sure some of you will jump on him if he doesn't meet your expectations in SL, which is just foolish, of course, but we know its going to happen.

cant blame people for skepticism. I agree his upside is very high BUT the risk is just as high.

Isola is relatively positive about the pick and he usually takes any opportunity to take cheap shots.

again who cares about journalists. I understand people who love the pick want the whole fanbase to love it but thats just not realistic

Isola and Berman love to take shots at the Knicks.

I think Isola met Porzingis and was impressed.

These are not guys trying to please the fan base...they're the ones in the front of that pitchfork crowd up above.

nixluva wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

nixluva wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

holfresh wrote:Phil slipped and said we will see in five years then said one year later in the interview..I see Shawn Bradley..Too skinny to man the middle..

He was responding to a "best man in the draft" question. Not sure you can determine that in one or two years.

You just want to see constant improvement from a player.

Why not give him some time?

I'm sure some of you will jump on him if he doesn't meet your expectations in SL, which is just foolish, of course, but we know its going to happen.

cant blame people for skepticism. I agree his upside is very high BUT the risk is just as high.

Isola is relatively positive about the pick and he usually takes any opportunity to take cheap shots.

Aside form SAS most of the analysts i've read have been fairly positive. Some said before the draft that they didn't want a guy like WCS or Kaminsky with a limited upside. Well Phil got the guy with the most upside. Can't fault him for swinging for the fences. He looked at all the prospects and this is the guy he felt was the BPA. Not just Mr. Right Now but for the future.

Yep. The only grades I have read so far were from cbs. Porzingis was given an A and Grant a B- because they didn't think his talents suited the triangle

Hmmm I wonder what made them say that about Grant? He's a good midrange shooter, drives well, passes well, high BB IQ and he defends. Pretty much spot on for a Triangle player. I really was hoping for Grant or even Payne as a 2nd pick in this draft. Very glad Phil got Grant. I mean 2 1st round picks and a 3rd guy who was slated to go #32 is great IMO.

If we sign Monroe and we show up at 28 wins..Does Phil then deserve to be fired??

StarksEwing1 wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

holfresh wrote:Phil slipped and said we will see in five years then said one year later in the interview..I see Shawn Bradley..Too skinny to man the middle..

He was responding to a "best man in the draft" question. Not sure you can determine that in one or two years.

You just want to see constant improvement from a player.

Why not give him some time?

I'm sure some of you will jump on him if he doesn't meet your expectations in SL, which is just foolish, of course, but we know its going to happen.

cant blame people for skepticism. I agree his upside is very high BUT the risk is just as high.

Isola is relatively positive about the pick and he usually takes any opportunity to take cheap shots.

again who cares about journalists. I understand people who love the pick want the whole fanbase to love it but thats just not realistic

Isola and Berman love to take shots at the Knicks.

I think Isola met Porzingis and was impressed.

These are not guys trying to please the fan base...they're the ones in the front of that pitchfork crowd up above.

Knicks have kinda deserved the shots considering all the silly moves they have made. Tonight was better but its a tiny positive step that needs to continue