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6/29/2008  6:00 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by azamatbagatov:

gallinari - nobody else stands out after the top 4 picks.

I look at it this way--if Portland had Bayless as pick 4 on their board--the same team that has absolutely cleaned clock in the draft--then Bayless was a high value pick that made much more sense given our lack of gurds and the fact we have taken 3-4 SF in a row. My bet is there will be mutliple guys after pick 6 who are better than Gallinari.
chances are there will be multiple picks better than Randolph or Bayless that were taken after pick 6.
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6/29/2008  6:04 PM
Posted by TrueBlue:

Exposed!

Westbrook or Randolph or Bust LOL!


[Edited by - TrueBlue on 06-29-2008 3:11 PM]

Westbrook wasn't on the board and Randolph and Gallinari both have a ton of upside and a ton of question marks. Who's exposed?
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6/29/2008  6:28 PM
Posted by crzymdups:
Posted by TrueBlue:

Exposed!

Westbrook or Randolph or Bust LOL!


[Edited by - TrueBlue on 06-29-2008 3:11 PM]

Westbrook wasn't on the board and Randolph and Gallinari both have a ton of upside and a ton of question marks. Who's exposed?


Because many agreed with Briggs thread. Randolph was on the board we didn't select him and Gall-Atari wasn't an option in Briggs thread, yet that's who most said in this thread they would have picked at 6.


LOL most are agreeing with the pic because that's who we picked and it's who we were off and on rumored to pick. If it would have been Bayless picked at 6 we'd be talking about the discussion at Dinner D'Antonio Banderas had with Bayless and how he's the perfect BPA @ 6.


We're fickle plain and simple.

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6/29/2008  6:35 PM
Posted by TrueBlue:
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Posted by TrueBlue:

Exposed!

Westbrook or Randolph or Bust LOL!


[Edited by - TrueBlue on 06-29-2008 3:11 PM]

Westbrook wasn't on the board and Randolph and Gallinari both have a ton of upside and a ton of question marks. Who's exposed?


Because many agreed with Briggs thread. Randolph was on the board we didn't select him and Gall-Atari wasn't an option in Briggs thread, yet that's who most said in this thread they would have picked at 6.


LOL most are agreeing with the pic because that's who we picked and it's who we were off and on rumored to pick. If it would have been Bayless picked at 6 we'd be talking about the discussion at Dinner D'Antonio Banderas had with Bayless and how he's the perfect BPA @ 6.


We're fickle plain and simple.

Most reasonable people here are willing to give him a chance. My board was Westbrook and Randolph. But both of those guys needed work, too. Randolph particularly. I changed my line of thinking since that post to Westbrook or bust. I was shocked he was off the board at 4. Once he was, I didn't feel there was a clear cut BPA. Bayless is a Marbury clone, right down to the giant diamond studs in his ears and the short arms. Gordon is a short 2 guard. They might be good scorers, but we don't need that. I'm willing to take a risk on something we need. I don't think we passed any clear cut BPA. If we had, I'd be more upset with the pick.

I don't love the pick, but who can argue the success of international players in the league in the last 7 years? There's been a Euro in the starting lineup of one of the Finals teams every year since 2002: Tony Parker, Ginobili (argentina, but still), Dirk Nowitzki, Pau Gasol, Zydrunas have all been starters in the NBA Finals lately. it's a legit place to get players. i will be honest and say i have never seen more than highlights from this kid, whereas i followed a bunch of players from college bball much more closely and saw games and had my hopes on them. it doesn't mean Gallinari wasn't the best pick. we will see in 3-4yrs if he was the best pick.
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6/29/2008  6:44 PM
Someone tell me how Gall-Atari is BPA @ 6.
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6/29/2008  6:46 PM
Posted by TrueBlue:

Someone tell me how Gall-Atari is BPA @ 6.

Name one guy who is definitely BPA over him. One guy. Name one guy who we can definitely say is a better player than Gallinari and if you are right in four years, I will put in a good word for you to be next GM of the New York Knickerbockers. One guy. Let's hear.
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6/29/2008  6:47 PM
this is tough...I was rooting for OJ, DJ, Alexander and R.Lopez. BUt once OJ Mayo was predicted to go third, I was hoping for DJ Augustine. So thats my pick...

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6/29/2008  6:47 PM
Posted by crzymdups:
Posted by TrueBlue:

Someone tell me how Gall-Atari is BPA @ 6.

Name one guy who is definitely BPA over him. One guy. Name one guy who we can definitely say is a better player than Gallinari and if you are right in four years, I will put in a good word for you to be next GM of the New York Knickerbockers. One guy. Let's hear.

I already told you Alexander would be BPA before him. But let me go with the guy I truly wanted @ 6 and that's Gordon. I don't want to be accused of Flip-Flopping.
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6/29/2008  6:49 PM
Posted by TrueBlue:
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Posted by TrueBlue:

Someone tell me how Gall-Atari is BPA @ 6.

Name one guy who is definitely BPA over him. One guy. Name one guy who we can definitely say is a better player than Gallinari and if you are right in four years, I will put in a good word for you to be next GM of the New York Knickerbockers. One guy. Let's hear.

I already told you Alexander would be BPA before him. But let me go with the guy I truly wanted @ 6 and that's Gordon. I don't want to be accused of Flip-Flopping.

Gordon is short, but he will definitely have a longer rap sheet than Gallinari. Okay, I'll book mark this thread and pull it up in four years.
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6/29/2008  6:51 PM
Plus my definition of BPA is different than I see with some here. BPA is usually understood as a player who can help a team right away. You don't have to wait on such player but yet when it comes to Gall-Atari I'm hearing wait 3-5yrs from now who's the best.

No let's go by who the best after next yr.

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 06-29-2008 5:56 PM]
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6/29/2008  6:52 PM
More teams with Euros in their starting lineups have made the Finals than teams with midget 2 guards. I can only think of one team with a midget two guard to make the Finals and that's Iverson and he's the best small man in the last 30 years of the league.

The Lakers would not have made the Finals if not for the addition of Gasol. They went something like 27-8 after adding him. It's a different game these days.
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6/29/2008  6:54 PM
Posted by TrueBlue:

Plus my definition of BPA is different than I see with some hear. BPA is usually understood a player who can help a team right away. You don't have to wait on such player but yet when it comes to Gall-Atari I'm hearing wait 3-5yrs from now who's the best.

No let's go by who the best after next yr.

Way to hedge your bet. I'd rather pick the guy who has a better career. Most draft experts I've ever heard talk about the draft say you can't really look at a draft until a couple of years later at best.

Gordon has been taking money from boosters for years now, he's more adapted to the American basketball world. But if you're more concerned to see who has a better rookie season, more power to you. You may be interested to know that Channing Frye had a better rookie season than Dirk Nowitzki.
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6/29/2008  6:58 PM
Posted by crzymdups:
Posted by TrueBlue:

Plus my definition of BPA is different than I see with some hear. BPA is usually understood a player who can help a team right away. You don't have to wait on such player but yet when it comes to Gall-Atari I'm hearing wait 3-5yrs from now who's the best.

No let's go by who the best after next yr.

Way to hedge your bet. I'd rather pick the guy who has a better career. Most draft experts I've ever heard talk about the draft say you can't really look at a draft until a couple of years later at best.

Gordon has been taking money from boosters for years now, he's more adapted to the American basketball world. But if you're more concerned to see who has a better rookie season, more power to you. You may be interested to know that Channing Frye had a better rookie season than Dirk Nowitzki.

Wow I'm confused which is it......

Ok you want to do the 5yrs from now route put me down for Jordan

If we're talking next yr put me down for Gordon

If we're talking overall better careers put me down for Gordon
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6/29/2008  7:02 PM
I'm talking about overall careers - value of the pick. Why would it be Deandre Jordan in year 5 but Gordon for the overall career? Either way, we'll see.

I'm talking about which players in the prime of their career are the most help to their teams and the best players.

Everyone has an opinion. I remember in 2005, last time the knicks had a lotto pick, a lot of folks here thought Gerald Green was the end all and be all. Some thought Granger, if he slipped past 5. I thought Frye and Granger and Warrick were the BPAs. Briggs thought Bynum. Green is out of the NBA almost. Frye is a backup. Bynum might be the best if he can get healthy again. Granger looks good, but 16 teams passed on him.
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6/29/2008  7:08 PM
Posted by crzymdups:

I'm talking about overall careers - value of the pick. Why would it be Deandre Jordan in year 5 but Gordon for the overall career? Either way, we'll see.

I'm talking about which players in the prime of their career are the most help to their teams and the best players.

Everyone has an opinion. I remember in 2005, last time the knicks had a lotto pick, a lot of folks here thought Gerald Green was the end all and be all. Some thought Granger, if he slipped past 5. I thought Frye and Granger and Warrick were the BPAs. Briggs thought Bynum. Green is out of the NBA almost. Frye is a backup. Bynum might be the best if he can get healthy again. Granger looks good, but 16 teams passed on him.


Because being better at certain stages in your career doesn't mean you're the better overall player. Hence T-Mac and A.I. had better statistical yrs than Kobe are they better than him or have they had better overall careers than him.

I see a lot of players being better Gall-Atari picked below him. I could be wrong but although I feel this way I'm not going to come out and make some outlandish statement and say he was WPA @ 6 or his Euro game will Flop in the NBA which be equivalent to someone saying he was BPA @ 6 or his Euro game will translate to a successful career in the NBA. Just keep these kind of statements to a minimum is what I'm saying.


[Edited by - TrueBlue on 06-29-2008 6:08 PM]
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6/30/2008  12:48 AM
Posted by TrueBlue:
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Exposed!

Westbrook or Randolph or Bust LOL!


[Edited by - TrueBlue on 06-29-2008 3:11 PM]

Westbrook wasn't on the board and Randolph and Gallinari both have a ton of upside and a ton of question marks. Who's exposed?


Because many agreed with Briggs thread. Randolph was on the board we didn't select him and Gall-Atari wasn't an option in Briggs thread, yet that's who most said in this thread they would have picked at 6.


LOL most are agreeing with the pic because that's who we picked and it's who we were off and on rumored to pick. If it would have been Bayless picked at 6 we'd be talking about the discussion at Dinner D'Antonio Banderas had with Bayless and how he's the perfect BPA @ 6.


We're fickle plain and simple.

i've always been intrigued by the thought of drafting Gallinari after reading up on him & watching as many clips i could find... don't think i've ever wavered on that.
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6/30/2008  5:22 AM
Izybx- DJ Augustine
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6/30/2008  5:38 AM
I wanted Mayo, but since he was gone I would have taken a guard. Marbury needs a replacement right now! Gordon at 6'2 222 would have been my choice that's why the clippers took him right after the knicks took the (stern favorite gallanari).

But the player who will be dominant one day will be Alexia Ajinca who went to the Charlotte Bobcats at #20
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6/30/2008  2:11 PM
Posted by TrueBlue:

Plus my definition of BPA is different than I see with some here. BPA is usually understood as a player who can help a team right away. You don't have to wait on such player but yet when it comes to Gall-Atari I'm hearing wait 3-5yrs from now who's the best.

No let's go by who the best after next yr.

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 06-29-2008 5:56 PM]

No, let's not. That's not the point of this thread.

And it's funny how you're trashing this pick and yet you want a 6'3 SG on your team.
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Posted by GKFv2:
Posted by TrueBlue:

Plus my definition of BPA is different than I see with some here. BPA is usually understood as a player who can help a team right away. You don't have to wait on such player but yet when it comes to Gall-Atari I'm hearing wait 3-5yrs from now who's the best.

No let's go by who the best after next yr.

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 06-29-2008 5:56 PM]

No, let's not. That's not the point of this thread.

And it's funny how you're trashing this pick and yet you want a 6'3 SG on your team.


Height doesn't define success or lack thereof we already proven this. Move On!
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