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BRIGGS
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6/1/2008  3:46 PM
If the Knicks cant figure this out--it's on them. I dont want to hear crp about Speights Augustin the italian stallion or aunt esther. Westbrook or randolph at 6.
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6/1/2008  3:52 PM
agreed
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6/1/2008  3:54 PM
I 3rd that.
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6/1/2008  3:58 PM
Obviously barring Bayless or Mayo slipping, I can't disagree with this. While I love Westbrooks athleticism, size, and defensive abilities at the point, I am a bit uncomfortable with this franchise adding another combo guard and rolling the dice on hopes that he can learn to play the point.

Craw has tried and failed, as has Nate, Francis, Mardy etc. It would be nice to get a pure pg. But with that said, considering there really isn't a pure point worthy of selecting at 6, I wouldn't be mad at Westbrook. But its gonna take him some time to learn the nuances of the pg position. At this point, Westbrook is only confortable dribbling in a straight line. We also haven't seen much evidence of him making his teammates better, aniticipating a play before it happens, etc.....

[Edited by - uptown on 06-01-2008 3:59 PM]
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6/1/2008  4:00 PM
Damn briggs, that's pretty specific.

I'd be happy with either, Westbrook, Speights, Joe Alexander, or Gallinari. I don't see what all the Gallinari hatred is about. I'm not that high on him either but I think he at least has the potential to be very good because he's got the right attitude. Conspicuously absent from the list is Randolph who looked like a role player in the games Ive seen of him.
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6/1/2008  4:00 PM
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6/1/2008  4:02 PM
I want them to find a way to get O.J. Mayo and McGee. I wouldn't be upset with Randolph or Westbrook tho. Really I feel good about this draft cuz there's so may guys we actually have a chance to take and I have some degree of confidence that Walsh will recognize what the right pick is. I would consider him a practical drafter. He'd be the anti Isiah in that he won't be taking any surprise mystery players and I doubt he'll take unnecessary chances on a risky player.

Walsh doesn't have a perfect draft record, but it's pretty good. He's demonstrated the ability to build a good team, so I feel good with him at the helm.
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6/1/2008  4:04 PM
Posted by nixluva:

I want them to find a way to get O.J. Mayo and McGee. I wouldn't be upset with Randolph or Westbrook tho. Really I feel good about this draft cuz there's so may guys we actually have a chance to take and I have some degree of confidence that Walsh will recognize what the right pick is. I would consider him a practical drafter. He'd be the anti Isiah in that he won't be taking any surprise mystery players and I doubt he'll take unnecessary chances on a risky player.

Walsh doesn't have a perfect draft record, but it's pretty good. He's demonstrated the ability to build a good team, so I feel good with him at the helm.


Phoenix did not really play with a 5 man which leads me to belioeve Lopez and Mcgee are out.
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Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by nixluva:

I want them to find a way to get O.J. Mayo and McGee. I wouldn't be upset with Randolph or Westbrook tho. Really I feel good about this draft cuz there's so may guys we actually have a chance to take and I have some degree of confidence that Walsh will recognize what the right pick is. I would consider him a practical drafter. He'd be the anti Isiah in that he won't be taking any surprise mystery players and I doubt he'll take unnecessary chances on a risky player.

Walsh doesn't have a perfect draft record, but it's pretty good. He's demonstrated the ability to build a good team, so I feel good with him at the helm.


Phoenix did not really play with a 5 man which leads me to belioeve Lopez and Mcgee are out.

Do you think that was by preference or just lack of a suitable player for their style. I think Javale would fit right in athletically and he can shoot. I don't see any reason why that kind of player couldn't fit into his scheme.


[Edited by - nixluva on 06-01-2008 4:09 PM]
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6/1/2008  4:09 PM
Posted by SlimPack:

Damn briggs, that's pretty specific.

I'd be happy with either, Westbrook, Speights, Joe Alexander, or Gallinari. I don't see what all the Gallinari hatred is about. I'm not that high on him either but I think he at least has the potential to be very good because he's got the right attitude. Conspicuously absent from the list is Randolph who looked like a role player in the games Ive seen of him.

Its prett easy math

picks 1-4 mayo beasley bayless rose we pick 6 so one of the two players is there.
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6/1/2008  5:13 PM
I don't see walsh drafting a guard at #6, his history with the pacers has been a big man like PF's
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6/1/2008  6:02 PM
sounds pretty close minded to me.

Some time ago it was Thabeet or bust
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6/1/2008  6:22 PM
Posted by playa2:

I don't see walsh drafting a guard at #6, his history with the pacers has been a big man like PF's

Well Walsh drafted Miller, Travis best and Tinsley too, along with McCloud and Jones, so he's a pretty balanced drafter IMO. He strikes me as a shrewed guy that knows what his teams need and goes after it.

With the possiblity of a trade who knows what he'll do. I think Randolph is an OK pick, but I think it's more likely that he'll look to find a lead guard. We have to have someone who can run the team or at least take over in crunctime with the ball in their hands. That spells guard.
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6/1/2008  6:34 PM
Briggs I dont want Speights at 6 that is why you trade down. I dont want Westbrook at 6 because when workouts start he will drop to about 9-11. Randolph will go up in workouts because it is about athleticism. Ed Reed was too slow to play safety. Ray Lewis was too small to play linbacker. I want basketball players with a high skill level. Augustin and EG are my two picks at #6. The reason the guy from Nevada is out is because he will go about 15-17 in the draft. Randolph doesnt have a feel for the game and Westbrook cant make his own shot
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6/1/2008  6:43 PM
Posted by fishmike:

sounds pretty close minded to me.

Some time ago it was Thabeet or bust

It's easy math to me. Pick 1-2-3-4 are Mayo Beasley Bayless Rose so we are pick 6--so you add two players who you think are the best. After those two Westbrook and Randolph are going to be the best bet players for the Knicks that conform to the uptempo style.

Funny you say Thabeet--he went back to school to finish his degree--I wonder where he would go JC said lottery was a lock
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6/1/2008  6:55 PM
Posted by SlimPack:

Damn briggs, that's pretty specific.

I'd be happy with either, Westbrook, Speights, Joe Alexander, or Gallinari. I don't see what all the Gallinari hatred is about. I'm not that high on him either but I think he at least has the potential to be very good because he's got the right attitude. Conspicuously absent from the list is Randolph who looked like a role player in the games Ive seen of him.

i think the only BRIGGS projection that we should hold him to is the one that's made the day of the actual draft... there's too many for me to keep track of at this point to know who he was jocking & who he wasn't.
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6/1/2008  6:57 PM
How do you project Randolph? As a big lefty SF, like Prince or Josh Smith or a PF like Bosh/Camby? If the latter, does he have a weight problem (i.e. that he won't be able to gain any & will get pushed around)?
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6/1/2008  7:09 PM
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Posted by SlimPack:

Damn briggs, that's pretty specific.

I'd be happy with either, Westbrook, Speights, Joe Alexander, or Gallinari. I don't see what all the Gallinari hatred is about. I'm not that high on him either but I think he at least has the potential to be very good because he's got the right attitude. Conspicuously absent from the list is Randolph who looked like a role player in the games Ive seen of him.

i think the only BRIGGS projection that we should hold him to is the one that's made the day of the actual draft... there's too many for me to keep track of at this point to know who he was jocking & who he wasn't.

Ive had the same 3 guys Mcgee westbrook and randolph for the last three months--this was a tough draft--impossible to stay with one guy throughout the year--this was fluid---and I put my neck out there for posters like you who have no idea what they are talking about and just sck up the content others provided for them and then make their calculate guesses:)
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6/1/2008  7:18 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by TMS:
Posted by SlimPack:

Damn briggs, that's pretty specific.

I'd be happy with either, Westbrook, Speights, Joe Alexander, or Gallinari. I don't see what all the Gallinari hatred is about. I'm not that high on him either but I think he at least has the potential to be very good because he's got the right attitude. Conspicuously absent from the list is Randolph who looked like a role player in the games Ive seen of him.

i think the only BRIGGS projection that we should hold him to is the one that's made the day of the actual draft... there's too many for me to keep track of at this point to know who he was jocking & who he wasn't.

Ive had the same 3 guys Mcgee westbrook and randolph for the last three months--this was a tough draft--impossible to stay with one guy throughout the year--this was fluid---and I put my neck out there for posters like you who have no idea what they are talking about and just sck up the content others provided for them and then make their calculate guesses:)


If Mayo drops hypothetically you have to consider Mayo over Westbrook and Randolph he is the bst available player at that point.
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6/1/2008  7:31 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by TMS:
Posted by SlimPack:

Damn briggs, that's pretty specific.

I'd be happy with either, Westbrook, Speights, Joe Alexander, or Gallinari. I don't see what all the Gallinari hatred is about. I'm not that high on him either but I think he at least has the potential to be very good because he's got the right attitude. Conspicuously absent from the list is Randolph who looked like a role player in the games Ive seen of him.

i think the only BRIGGS projection that we should hold him to is the one that's made the day of the actual draft... there's too many for me to keep track of at this point to know who he was jocking & who he wasn't.

Ive had the same 3 guys Mcgee westbrook and randolph for the last three months--this was a tough draft--impossible to stay with one guy throughout the year--this was fluid---and I put my neck out there for posters like you who have no idea what they are talking about and just sck up the content others provided for them and then make their calculate guesses:)

lol, i've been defending you for the past few months & deferring to your knowledge on prospects & get that in return... you're a real class act there BRIGGS.

the ONE time i challenged your projection on a prospect was when you called a guy a bust on the same exact limited info that was available to everyone on this forum... i realize you have a personal desire to be looked upon as the all knowing talent surveyor on these forums but there's no need to insult me when there was nothing wrong w/what i posted above to begin with... your constant back & forth from prospect to prospect gets very confusing... i'm sorry your huge ego can't deal with a tiny bit of criticism.

[Edited by - TMS on 06-01-2008 4:36 PM]
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