Posted by BRIGGS:

Posted by Pharzeone:

[quote]Posted by BRIGGS:

[quote]Posted by RemBee76:

The "evidence" strikes me as cirumstantial at best.

A player holds himself out of work-outs possibly due to injury.
Some writer speculates that it�s because he got an offer from Isiah, since you know, that matches his MO with Frye and all.
The notion gets "hyped hard" on realGM.
A New York Sports writer picks up on it, since you know, Zeke did the same thing with Balkman, and talks to one of Chandler's "people" who of course says yes the Knicks are interested along with seven other NBA teams. He's hot I tell ya.

Hey, we could pick the guy, but sorry if I'm not overwhelmed by the "evidence". Let me know if you have more.

Meanwhile the Knicks are still working out players and Isiah is probably just fine with everyone thinking he is going to pick yet another under-valued athletic forward with his late first round pick. Everyone who buys the evidence, that is.


It's evident to me--if we dont move that pick--we are taking Wilson Chandler.

Briggs, U so crazy!
http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=21756

That was a nice left hook that staggered me. I shrugged it off and have come back swinging and feel I have connected:)

Just funning you. It's draft time and every team is selecting the next great one. What are the chances that he throws a curve and take the Italian kid.

Posted by Pharzeone:

Posted by BRIGGS:

Posted by Pharzeone:

[quote]Posted by BRIGGS:

[quote]Posted by RemBee76:

The "evidence" strikes me as cirumstantial at best.

A player holds himself out of work-outs possibly due to injury.
Some writer speculates that it�s because he got an offer from Isiah, since you know, that matches his MO with Frye and all.
The notion gets "hyped hard" on realGM.
A New York Sports writer picks up on it, since you know, Zeke did the same thing with Balkman, and talks to one of Chandler's "people" who of course says yes the Knicks are interested along with seven other NBA teams. He's hot I tell ya.

Hey, we could pick the guy, but sorry if I'm not overwhelmed by the "evidence". Let me know if you have more.

Meanwhile the Knicks are still working out players and Isiah is probably just fine with everyone thinking he is going to pick yet another under-valued athletic forward with his late first round pick. Everyone who buys the evidence, that is.


It's evident to me--if we dont move that pick--we are taking Wilson Chandler.

Briggs, U so crazy!
http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=21756

That was a nice left hook that staggered me. I shrugged it off and have come back swinging and feel I have connected:)

Just funning you. It's draft time and every team is selecting the next great one. What are the chances that he throws a curve and take the Italian kid.

Really, anything is possible. Lot's of Italians in NY, would be a good PR move. I say Isiah shocks us all.
Still hoping we pick up an extra 2nd round pick, maybe use that for Chandler.

Posted by BRIGGS:

Posted by Pharzeone:

Posted by BRIGGS:

Posted by Pharzeone:

[quote]Posted by BRIGGS:

[quote]Posted by RemBee76:

The "evidence" strikes me as cirumstantial at best.

A player holds himself out of work-outs possibly due to injury.
Some writer speculates that it�s because he got an offer from Isiah, since you know, that matches his MO with Frye and all.
The notion gets "hyped hard" on realGM.
A New York Sports writer picks up on it, since you know, Zeke did the same thing with Balkman, and talks to one of Chandler's "people" who of course says yes the Knicks are interested along with seven other NBA teams. He's hot I tell ya.

Hey, we could pick the guy, but sorry if I'm not overwhelmed by the "evidence". Let me know if you have more.

Meanwhile the Knicks are still working out players and Isiah is probably just fine with everyone thinking he is going to pick yet another under-valued athletic forward with his late first round pick. Everyone who buys the evidence, that is.


It's evident to me--if we dont move that pick--we are taking Wilson Chandler.

Briggs, U so crazy!
http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=21756

That was a nice left hook that staggered me. I shrugged it off and have come back swinging and feel I have connected:)

Just funning you. It's draft time and every team is selecting the next great one. What are the chances that he throws a curve and take the Italian kid.

Wilson Chandler moved from 45 to 23 by NBA Draft Net tonight. Maybe there were a few loose lips from Wilson Chandler's side?

I saw that too. I attributed it to the Draftexpress people who are really good at what they do. Ford's mock has him going to the Knicks as well. His camp has all the appearance of a guy who got a promise so there is good credibility to the rumors. I find it interesting that teams are basically saying that Thomas guarantee him the pick because they want to bring him in to workout but he refuses. Spurs and Bulls are on record saying they want to see him. I think the Spurs were serious about taking him with their 28th pick versus second round pick. For whatever reason the Spurs are high on him and he doesn't get past them. I guess they are looking at taking a project SF with upside. I also see rumors of Fernandez dropping because of attitude problems he had a couple of workouts. McRoberts is dropping like a stone on most boards as well.

Posted by Pharzeone:

I find it funny that the 23rd pick is getting all this hype and write-up. Checkout what's on Sporting News front page.

Knicks' draft mystery solved: Chandler's their man
June 21, 2007

Perhaps what we really needed to solve two of the draft's bigger mysteries was a very big magnifying glass, big enough to allow us to line up the two mysteries together.

The first mystery: What the heck will the Knicks do?

The second mystery: What the heck is Wilson Chandler doing?

Think about it for a second and … aha!

For the past week or so, there's been speculation about Chandler winding up with the Knicks with the 23rd pick in the draft, and now, a source says that is, indeed, what will happen. That would help explain a few things, starting with why Chandler has been declining to work out for other teams. He was a no-show in Philadelphia on Monday, a strange workout to miss for a player dying to get into the first round -- the Sixers own three picks in the first round, including No. 21 and No. 30. If he felt that he was on the fringe of the first round, Philadelphia would be the can't-miss showcase for Chandler. Obviously, Chandler feels he has a first-round slot sewn up.

Knicks president Isiah Thomas has been coy about his pick, but he has been hinting that it will be as much of a shocker as the choice of Renaldo Balkman with the 20th pick in last year's draft. Having already signed Kentucky big man Randolph Morris thanks to a rules loophole this spring, Thomas can afford to take a chance. He needs to win next year, but it's unlikely that he is going to get a difference-maker at 23. Might as well take a gamble. Chandler qualifies as such.

Most NBA personnel execs were surprised that Chandler, a sophomore from DePaul, entered the NBA draft at all. There was even more surprise when he stayed in, hiring agent Chris Grier. Now, the notion of him going No. 23 is the biggest of all surprises. "He has some potential, but he needed to go back to school," one general manager says. "I can't see him as a first-rounder."

Chandler (6-8, 230) averaged 14.6 points and 6.9 rebounds this year. He is a good athlete with long arms, and his potential to be a top-notch defender and rebounder at the small forward spot is undeniable. But he is very raw, still carries many offensive questions and is a long way from being a productive NBA player.

Still, it appears that he is the Knicks' man, and we'll be updating the mock draft here to reflect that. One thing we won't be updating is our slotting of point guard Mike Conley as the No. 4 pick, going to Memphis. We told you Monday that Memphis loves Conley's speed and is strongly considering taking him with the fourth pick, and that nugget has been confirmed by another source.

Posted by TheGame:

Someone posted this on draftexpress.

It doesnt fill our biggest need, which is a shooter, but maybe Isiah knows hes gonna be able to pull off a sign and trade Lewis and wants another rugged power forward if it costs us Frye or Balkman.

This is the only reason why picking a Chandler might make sense. If IT already has a trade lined up involving Balkman, we then would need another rebounding and defensive SF/PF. However, I would have to think that Williams or Cook would be better picks.

Posted by technomaster:

Going back to 1999, Weis on paper was a good pick - that was before numerous back injuries sapped him of NBA-level athleticism. He still went on to become a mild star in the euroleagues, along w/ Knicks would-be-PG-of-the-future Vujanic. But he was clearly a bust in the NBA because he never made it here after a post-surgery summer workout.

Had we not taken Weis, does everyone still feel bitter we didn't pick Artest? Granted, Artest is a beast of a player, but he's a load to deal with. How many coaches has he been through? He's on his 3rd team, and seems to manage to bring controversy with every word out of his mouth. And that doesn't take into account his personal problems. Perhaps the Knicks staff was right to put up a red flag about Ron-Ron. Awesome player, but a loose cannon. Perhaps too loose for any team to count on him, at least up to this point in his career.

Beyond that, who was picked in the neighborhood of the Knicks' #16 pick?
The next 3 picks were Cal Bowdler, James Posey, and Quincy Lewis. Posey's still around, but he's a shell of his former self for some reason. 8 picks later, Andrei Kirilenko (24) was available. Not too many notable players after Artest.

Regarding Chandler - he sounds a lot like Hakim Warrick.

Posted by misterearl:

Briggs - howcum you never hear anyone say, "he's a rich man's Bimbo Coles"?