3G4G wrote:

Uptown wrote:

3G4G wrote:

Knicksfan wrote:Anybody else and its an accomplishment. Its Melo and its a controversy.

Funny world.

Melo had the kind of season many dream, including us fans. He scored because we needed him to score, but he backed up his comments about sharing the ball more and doing more on the court. He rebounded. He defended like we hadn't seen him do for an extended period. He passed well and kept the ball moving. He was a leader when we got many injuries and struggled.

The guy came from the Olympics motivated and carried that to an amazing season. Only a surreal season by LeBron keeps Melo from seriously being an MVP possible winner.

I think that any accomplishment that celebrates the amazing season this man has had is worth cheering up.

If KD had won it again it would have been a major accomplishment only to the degree he would have done it 4 times straight. Matter of fact Durant won it 3 times straight and Knicks fans still felt Melo>>>>>>Durant overall as a player.
So keep this in perspective, it's relevance overall as Melo embarks on his 1st scoring title

Ask yourself how often do you think about who the scoring champ is at season's end? I'd wager most fans are interested in this accomplishment the least, except if the player is on your team. Laker fans last year looked at it as no big deal when Kobe said Durant could have it and they are some of the most Hero Worshipping fans in all of sports.

But now Melo can be referred, to a very small degree as BEST PURE SCORER(although it wasn't that efficient of a season) in comparison to his other seasons

Funny how Melo is the Scoring Champ but Durant had a more rare Historic Season

MELO IS GOING TO HOIST THAT SCORING TITLE ALL THE WAY TO THE GREATEST KNICK EVER BANK!!!!!

You are arguing against Ghosts now. With the exception of a rogue poster or two, what Knick fans said Melo was a better overall player than Durant? On top of that you are reflecting from the original topic.

First of all where were you when I showed you 2 links that went 2 pages calling for Woodson'd firing after asking me about another supposed Ghost argument when we were scussin COY? I tell you what you did, you went Ghost....

Now it may be another tune to erase you again....

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=44120&page=1

and then

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=43733

and then

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=39918&page=1

and throughout in this EPIC thread

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=43167&page=1

First, I like to believe I have a life outside of this board; many times I'll post in a thread, log-off, come back and find my daughters doing HW/surfing and wont be able to get back until the next day or thereafter....I rarely keep up with the threads I post in half the time.....With that said, those links you just posted, I dont see many posters claiming that Melo is a better overall player than Durant.

Second, speaking of pulling a "Swayze" I've posed a question to you several times only to have you skip and duck like Ben Stiller in Dodgeball. I dont keep meticulous folders of my posts and others as you do, so I'm not going to bother to find it and post a link. So I'll pose the same question here:

How does an avid Bulls fan jump ship and become a fan of its heated rival?

TeamBall wrote:Really? We cant just congratulate a player on our team for winning the scoring title?

Not on this board. I guess this is why there is less and less people posting. becoming unbearable. Sad that a lot of other fans are congratulating him more than some knick fans lmao

Bonn1997 wrote:

Hersports85 wrote:

TeamBall wrote:Really? We cant just congratulate a player on our team for winning the scoring title?

Not on this board. I guess this is why there is less and less people posting. becoming unbearable. Sad that a lot of other fans are congratulating him more than some knick fans lmao

Are there fewer posting? It did not seem that way.
Regardless, I'm sure you can find a highly censored forum that does not allow criticism.

Nothing wrong with criticism, however that's not what's going on here at all. A player wins the scoring title on your supposedly favorite team and it seems like a simple congrats, job well done or acknowledgement is difficult for some to even type. It's argued that it's meaningless ... is it meaningless when a HB leads the NFL in rushing or individual awards in baseball.

All i'm saying is that the Knicks have not had a player win since 1985... 28 years ago and because it's Melo, many want to try and discredit what he has done this season without having a healthy Amare and being healthy himself. Some like to always focus on the negative, and overlook that we had a good regular season when in the beginning many critics had us finishing 7th.

But oh wait ... other ____insert team___ goes on a lil winning streak and its praised, now that's comical. Go back in the MVP thread and some was boosting durant scoring titles, but now it means nothing lmao.

So yes, I think I will take your advice...thought this was a KNICK FAN forum ...I'll just continue avoiding this one.

Uptown wrote:Turn to ESPN right now and watch George Gervin and David Thompson Brag talk about the scoring title/race they had over 30 years. To quote the Ice Man, "We are talking about me and David Thompsons duel 35 years later. Thats how important it is. I'm a part of NBA history." Somebody needs to tell Ice Man, Thompson and ESPN that according to some here, its not a big deal...

Bonn1997 wrote:

Uptown wrote:Turn to ESPN right now and watch George Gervin and David Thompson Brag talk about the scoring title/race they had over 30 years. To quote the Ice Man, "We are talking about me and David Thompsons duel 35 years later. Thats how important it is. I'm a part of NBA history." Somebody needs to tell Ice Man, Thompson and ESPN that according to some here, its not a big deal...

It depends on what you mean by a "big deal." If you want fame and money, then there is NO better way to do it than to have a high PPG. If you're just talking about lay fan and player perception, it's a gigantic deal. If you're talking about how much the player is contributing to the team's wins, PPG is a poor stat to use.

Knicks are 7-1 during the month of April while averaging 37 pts per to snatch the scoring title away from KD. Those ppg's certainly didn't hurt...

SupremeCommander wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Uptown wrote:Turn to ESPN right now and watch George Gervin and David Thompson Brag talk about the scoring title/race they had over 30 years. To quote the Ice Man, "We are talking about me and David Thompsons duel 35 years later. Thats how important it is. I'm a part of NBA history." Somebody needs to tell Ice Man, Thompson and ESPN that according to some here, its not a big deal...

It depends on what you mean by a "big deal." If you want fame and money, then there is NO better way to do it than to have a high PPG. If you're just talking about lay fan and player perception, it's a gigantic deal. If you're talking about how much the player is contributing to the team's wins, PPG is a poor stat to use.

again - your lack of context with your statistical analysis is concerning. On this iteration of this team, arguable PPG understates Melo's (and JR's) value to this team. Melo is the singular reason - especially with Amare's injury - that the rest of the team gets clean looks at three. That you give him little to no credit makes no sense, other than the fact that you want to cling to your stat humping ways. This ain't baseball

It's all about efficiency and win shares, don't you read Berri?

According to win shares, Tyson Chandler>Melo LOLOLOLOLOL

ChuckBuck wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Uptown wrote:Turn to ESPN right now and watch George Gervin and David Thompson Brag talk about the scoring title/race they had over 30 years. To quote the Ice Man, "We are talking about me and David Thompsons duel 35 years later. Thats how important it is. I'm a part of NBA history." Somebody needs to tell Ice Man, Thompson and ESPN that according to some here, its not a big deal...

It depends on what you mean by a "big deal." If you want fame and money, then there is NO better way to do it than to have a high PPG. If you're just talking about lay fan and player perception, it's a gigantic deal. If you're talking about how much the player is contributing to the team's wins, PPG is a poor stat to use.

again - your lack of context with your statistical analysis is concerning. On this iteration of this team, arguable PPG understates Melo's (and JR's) value to this team. Melo is the singular reason - especially with Amare's injury - that the rest of the team gets clean looks at three. That you give him little to no credit makes no sense, other than the fact that you want to cling to your stat humping ways. This ain't baseball

It's all about efficiency and win shares, don't you read Berri?

According to win shares, Tyson Chandler>Melo LOLOLOLOLOL

To heck with KD and Melo sitting out, I wanna know why Byron Scott didn't activate Anderson Verajo tonite to give hmm a shot to win the EFFICIENCY title Thats the real story...