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Paladin55
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1/12/2011  5:07 PM
SlimChin wrote:
Paladin55 wrote:
SlimChin wrote:do we really need him? this west coast trip kind of indicates otherwise. Walker, Williams and Turiaf have been picking up the slack both on the offense and defensive end; Bench has coming up big. if they beat the jazz tonight and go 3-1 on this road trip Gallo is looking more and more expendable.

Groundbreaking stuff, bro.

Why was this thread even needed with all the other anti-Gallo threads available for you to post in??

Was there anything said here that was different from comments made elsewhere on UK by some?

Williams, by the way, has not played as well recently- perhaps teams are watching him a bit more closely now. Walker is defensively challenged, to put it mildly. Both are on the team I root for, and I root for both of them, but each has their specific deficiencies, and neither are as good (or will ever be as good) as Gallinari.

And now Turiaf having a good game is somehow related to our not needing Gallinari? That is some stretch, my friend.

Keep on putting out original and stimulating threads such as this one...

...they're a pleasure to read.

not groundbreaking—just seems like it's getting more obvious that we don't need him as we keep winning. you can criticize Walker and and Williams but keep in mind they really haven't had a chance to shine sitting on the bench and now there getting this opportunity. not saying they're better than Gallo but they both pick up the slack for his absence right now.

no need for the sarcasm, just don't spend the energy replying.


Given the absolute redundancy of the thread, sarcasm seemed like an apt response.

Here are some others you can post in:

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=37657

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=37677

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=37602

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=37615

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1/12/2011  6:58 PM
We aren't winning because we have star talent across the board. We are winning because we have very good talent that loves to play togetehr and plays together as a team. Gallo fits in to that no matter what his flaws are. We aren't trying to build a team of Isiah Thomas like all-stars. We are building a team of guys that compliment each other.

Amare is our star
Wilson is our all-around do everything slasher and shooter
Gallo is our outside guy and developing driver
Felton is our heart
Landry is our fill in the blanks guys
Our bench all play their roles and play them well.

Gallo is our fourth option. Fourth options by nature are inconsistent because they are to defer to the top 3. He does a solid job in that role. He needs to get better at driving to the hoop, shooting more consistently, rebounding and increasing his overall aggression. But at 21 years old why would you be worried. It's not like he's struggling to get minutes over Mozgov/Walker

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1/15/2011  10:23 AM
We missed Gallo last nite.
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1/15/2011  10:30 AM
So now we're 3-3 without Gallo, and 19-14 with him. Where are the GALLO HATTERS NOW!?!?!?!?
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1/15/2011  11:45 AM
This argument that the production from two guys equals that from one and so we dont need that one player because we have two marginal players is BEYOND LAME. For those who make arguments like that here's a newsflash: Basketball is a 5 on 5 game so unless you have figured out how to play 6 on 5 it ain't gonna work. The only way it would work is if those two scrubs combined played the same minutes as Gallo, had the same points, same # of trips to the line, same FTs made, same defensive impact etc etc combined.

We have two scrubs who play well for 5 games and we are already making one of our starters expendable and the same people bitch about Galllo's consistency!!!!!!!! What consistency has Williams and Walker shown for you to even contemplate this lame argument??

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1/15/2011  11:50 AM
orangeblobman wrote:gthot (get the heck out of town). We need Gallinari. He's a powerful baller, he can dish the rock, he'll swish the trey bucket, he'll dunk it, he'll get to the line more than anyone other than Amar'e, he'll play the defense (remember how he went right at LeBron, on both ends of the court?). He's clutch, he's young, he's tall. I mean, come on. How can anyone make the case that a player that can do all these things is not needed?

Look, we're balling hard. But that's not because Gallo is out. When Gallo comes back we'll ball even harder.

Kelly Tripuka, last night, post-game, "They NEED Gallinari".

Word. The Blob gots it right. So does The Giant With A Girl's Name: We need Gallo!
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1/15/2011  1:16 PM
orangeblobman wrote:So now we're 3-3 without Gallo, and 19-14 with him. Where are the GALLO HATTERS NOW!?!?!?!?

crickets... LOL

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1/15/2011  2:28 PM
Seems like the outside shooting of everyone on the team was off last night. Don't know if Gallo would have been any different, but one thing he has shown the ability to do this year is get to the line. Williams, Walker, and you can throw in Chandler, did not miss a single foul shot yesterday... because they didn't take a single foul shot.

I just don't attach too much importance to the results of the game at this time because pretty much everyone was off last night.

The one thing it did show, or at least hint at, is that Williams is a limited player in some aspects of the game, and that some of his success is going to depend on other players getting him the ball at the right time. The fact that we ended up with only 13 assists says a lot to me, and many (most??) of our 3s did not come within the flow of an offense that was moving the ball around crisply with a purpose.

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1/15/2011  2:37 PM
Paladin55 wrote:Seems like the outside shooting of everyone on the team was off last night. Don't know if Gallo would have been any different, but one thing he has shown the ability to do this year is get to the line. Williams, Walker, and you can throw in Chandler, did not miss a single foul shot yesterday... because they didn't take a single foul shot.

I just don't attach too much importance to the results of the game at this time because pretty much everyone was off last night.

The one thing it did show, or at least hint at, is that Williams is a limited player in some aspects of the game, and that some of his success is going to depend on other players getting him the ball at the right time. The fact that we ended up with only 13 assists says a lot to me, and many (most??) of our 3s did not come within the flow of an offense that was moving the ball around crisply with a purpose.

Williams is not the player that Gallo is, i think that much is pretty obvious... Williams is a terrific shot up shooter, but Gallo is more than that... u can dump the ball to Gallo & he can make a stutter step or step back move off the dribble & drain a 3 or drive it to the hole & get to the FT line... Williams, if he's being covered, has not shown the ability to do this, at least not consistently... i don't think anyone should be under the illusion that Williams can fully replace Gallo's role on this roster... but if u can use Gallo as a trade piece to upgrade other areas, i think having a guy like Williams does at least give u someone off the bench who can bring some of the perimeter shooting that you'd be losing by making such a move.

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1/15/2011  4:56 PM
The Knicks are better with Gallo than without him unless you live under a rock and only watch Knicks highlights on ESPN.

He's young and is getting better. Sure his numbers similar to last year but if you watch him play he seems to have taken a step forward this year. He's 22 and averaging 15 PPG as the 4th option. Fast forward 3 years and he may very well be an 20+PPG player.

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1/15/2011  5:17 PM
The "boris Diaw" effect has taken on Williams game. If you can shoot, you will play. MDA gets you paid. Diaw got a 10 mil a year contract. Without MDA, he has not been as good. With Larry he was a disaster.
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1/15/2011  5:34 PM
Paladin55 wrote:Seems like the outside shooting of everyone on the team was off last night. Don't know if Gallo would have been any different, but one thing he has shown the ability to do this year is get to the line. Williams, Walker, and you can throw in Chandler, did not miss a single foul shot yesterday... because they didn't take a single foul shot.

I just don't attach too much importance to the results of the game at this time because pretty much everyone was off last night.

The one thing it did show, or at least hint at, is that Williams is a limited player in some aspects of the game, and that some of his success is going to depend on other players getting him the ball at the right time. The fact that we ended up with only 13 assists says a lot to me, and many (most??) of our 3s did not come within the flow of an offense that was moving the ball around crisply with a purpose.

good post...

knicks struggled back in NOV vs the kings.. fell down 15 in the first quarter.. gallo had 27 points and shot 17 Ft's.... Just saying....

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1/15/2011  5:38 PM
tkf wrote:
Paladin55 wrote:Seems like the outside shooting of everyone on the team was off last night. Don't know if Gallo would have been any different, but one thing he has shown the ability to do this year is get to the line. Williams, Walker, and you can throw in Chandler, did not miss a single foul shot yesterday... because they didn't take a single foul shot.

I just don't attach too much importance to the results of the game at this time because pretty much everyone was off last night.

The one thing it did show, or at least hint at, is that Williams is a limited player in some aspects of the game, and that some of his success is going to depend on other players getting him the ball at the right time. The fact that we ended up with only 13 assists says a lot to me, and many (most??) of our 3s did not come within the flow of an offense that was moving the ball around crisply with a purpose.

good post...

knicks struggled back in NOV vs the kings.. fell down 15 in the first quarter.. gallo had 27 points and shot 17 Ft's.... Just saying....

Did not realize this when I posted...interesting.

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1/16/2011  11:35 AM
Paladin55 wrote:
tkf wrote:
Paladin55 wrote:Seems like the outside shooting of everyone on the team was off last night. Don't know if Gallo would have been any different, but one thing he has shown the ability to do this year is get to the line. Williams, Walker, and you can throw in Chandler, did not miss a single foul shot yesterday... because they didn't take a single foul shot.

I just don't attach too much importance to the results of the game at this time because pretty much everyone was off last night.

The one thing it did show, or at least hint at, is that Williams is a limited player in some aspects of the game, and that some of his success is going to depend on other players getting him the ball at the right time. The fact that we ended up with only 13 assists says a lot to me, and many (most??) of our 3s did not come within the flow of an offense that was moving the ball around crisply with a purpose.

good post...

knicks struggled back in NOV vs the kings.. fell down 15 in the first quarter.. gallo had 27 points and shot 17 Ft's.... Just saying....

Did not realize this when I posted...interesting.


yea, I heard that during the game, I think Breen mentioned it.. then I went back and looked it up, and was like.. wow... that is why I like what he brings, a game like that, when you can't hit shots and are fatigued, a great way to keep the game close is to get to the line... Knicks won that game back in NOV and it started their resurgence...

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