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BRIGGS
Posts: 53275 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 7/30/2002 Member: #303 |
![]() F500ONE wrote:BRIGGS wrote:RonRon wrote:its funny, everyone wants to play like Golden State Ive probably seen GS 3-4 times this year. I would never pay Drey Green 12 mm--maybe gS would--hes very valuable to them--Im not sure--that still a lot of money. You take away Steph Cury and Thompson and that team is barely .500 If you left Curry and Thomspon and removed Green and Harrison(the other two starters) they wouldnt be 35-5 but theyd be 27-10. Steph Curry is an MVP type player(a top 3 NBA player) and Klay Thompson is a top 10 NBA player--maybe the best SG in the NBA. Its impossible to guard GS because they have two super stars who also control the ball. Drey Green and everyone else on that team get great shots becuase of them--they get to play free and hard on D. Bring Drey Green to the Knicks and its not going to be the same--we are FAR away from GS talent-wise. We need to focus our assets on tier 1 players--guys like Curry and Thompson. Drey Green is an intangibles player and it is possible that he could sign a highly lucrative contract and move back to a 38% shooter without the assistance of those 2 guards. RIP Crushalot😞
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F500ONE
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![]() BRIGGS wrote:F500ONE wrote:BRIGGS wrote:RonRon wrote:its funny, everyone wants to play like Golden State Dray makes David near expendable, you know a guy who is making $16mil/yr Have you ever advocated bringing Lee back to New York at his pay scale
Are you limited in your abilities to scout a player tunnel vision only on offensive basic metrics
He also has very good passing ability
His +/- and Win Shares are also rather chunky here have a look Scroll Down |
BRIGGS
Posts: 53275 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 7/30/2002 Member: #303 |
![]() F500ONE wrote:BRIGGS wrote:F500ONE wrote:BRIGGS wrote:RonRon wrote:its funny, everyone wants to play like Golden State This isnt 1990--this isnt the same type of basketball. Offense wins games now. ANY team can play good team defense with guys willing to play hard. The biggest reason the Knicks stink is there in ability to score over 100 points. Dallas is 29-13 in the west and gives up more points than we do at 6-36. The problem w the Knicks is the score roughly 92 points a game. After Carmelo--we dont have consistent answers. You start adding in guys like Okafor and Dragic and then FILL IN around them--then you can start talking. We need offense and then the guys have to adhere to playing hard defense and if Fisher cant achieve that it's on him. Our first concern is making sure we can increase our offensive output by 10+ points. Our porous PG position in the modern NBA is a great place to start. RIP Crushalot😞
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F500ONE
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![]() BRIGGS wrote:F500ONE wrote:BRIGGS wrote:F500ONE wrote:BRIGGS wrote:RonRon wrote:its funny, everyone wants to play like Golden State So you pick Dallas as an example yet ignore the fact GSW has the best record in the NBA Playing Dray as a starter placing them amongst the tops teams not only
Did you not see he's leading the league in Defensive Win Shares?
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BRIGGS
Posts: 53275 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 7/30/2002 Member: #303 |
![]() F500ONE wrote:BRIGGS wrote:F500ONE wrote:BRIGGS wrote:F500ONE wrote:BRIGGS wrote:RonRon wrote:its funny, everyone wants to play like Golden State I cant pay a guy 10-12mm when we are scoring 90 points a game. Priority 1 is improve the offense in a big way so we can compete. I think we can do that and we can fill in the blanks with smaller cash. I think having taller more athletic longer guards alone will help our defense. RIP Crushalot😞
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F500ONE
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![]() BRIGGS wrote:F500ONE wrote:BRIGGS wrote:F500ONE wrote:BRIGGS wrote:F500ONE wrote:BRIGGS wrote:RonRon wrote:its funny, everyone wants to play like Golden State I have no problem with looking at guards But not that I think we have a shot at Dray
As far as guards go then Gerald Henderson probably fits your profile both in skillset and financially |
RonRon
Posts: 25531 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 5/22/2002 Member: #246 |
![]() BRIGGS wrote:F500ONE wrote:BRIGGS wrote:RonRon wrote:its funny, everyone wants to play like Golden State You are doing exactly what I thought you would..
You have to watch how they made SUPERPSTARS instantly unable to do things they do to every other team He does many things that STATS do not bring up So why not try to take talent and HIGH IQ, leadership (that we lack since Kidd and our veterans), and defensive players (good 1v1 and good team defense) Green is a big part of what GS does, as is EVERYONE In fact, I would not only try to steal a player or 2 from GS (could be someone cheaper like Brandon Rush/Holiday), I would also steal 1 or 2 players from Atlanta Look, I am not paying him for his numbers, I am paying him for his OVERALL effect on the the team, including the development of the possible 1-2 pick and if lucky OK4 and Thanasis, and our D League callups Dragic is a very good player, do not get me wrong, I would love him, but he is a luxury at this point, we are playing a system that devalues the position We need players that will take our DEFENSE to where GS and Atlanta is currently is in, for the next decade with Thanasis and our #1 draft pick, and this is why I am targetting players like
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BRIGGS
Posts: 53275 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 7/30/2002 Member: #303 |
![]() RonRon wrote:BRIGGS wrote:were not getting Leonard or Butler and I doubt PJ pays 10mm plus for Green. Green has a lot of value for GS but the team starts and ends with the guards--they are not replaceable. When you are looking at the Knicks--the first thing that is noticeable is they cant score. So when you are correcting a team--you need to start there. I agree with the fill in the blank players but we are at the stage where we "need' to find our own Drey Green's with pick 35 and use our tier 1 draft picks and big money on players who will help us score many more points just to be competitive. Ron--do a quick study--show me the correlation between offensive output and team wins and get back to me. http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/stats/byteam?cat1=Total&cat2=team&sort=232 RIP Crushalot😞
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RonRon
Posts: 25531 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 5/22/2002 Member: #246 |
![]() BRIGGS wrote:RonRon wrote:BRIGGS wrote:were not getting Leonard or Butler and I doubt PJ pays 10mm plus for Green. Green has a lot of value for GS but the team starts and ends with the guards--they are not replaceable. When you are looking at the Knicks--the first thing that is noticeable is they cant score. So when you are correcting a team--you need to start there. I agree with the fill in the blank players but we are at the stage where we "need' to find our own Drey Green's with pick 35 and use our tier 1 draft picks and big money on players who will help us score many more points just to be competitive. STOP USING NUBMERS TO JUSTIFY TALENT
GS knows how to make ALLS STAR uncomfortable and unable to do things that he does to EVERY TEAM IN THE LEAGUE What is the difference between GS this year versus GS in the past years? if you want to play like GS, then getting the player that was the only major change this season versus their past years while playing major minutes/starting lineup/finishing games I am not only paying Green for his production but because of his ability to be an extension of the coach on the floor Do you think Green or Dragic will have a greater inlfuence over the development of Thanasis and OK4?
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