TripleThreat wrote:F500ONE wrote:Here's my Ultimate Dumpage
Bargs
Amar'e
J.R. Smith
Shumpert
THJR or Clean[they pick]
2018 1st
4
David Lee
Iggy Pop
Draymond Green
Warriors would never make this trade. The fanbase in the Bay Area would simply revolt. People in the Warriors organization would end up losing their jobs over a trade like this.
Golden State is designed to push right now. That 2018 1st might be juicy if it's unprotected, but nothing the Knicks could give otherwise on that list can help them this year.
Sure it would be nice to have a third guard in Shumpert or even Smith if Livingston gets chronically shut down, but losing Lee AND Green would mean Barnes would be forced into power forward and/or STAT or Bargs would have to start at power forward. The very reason the Warriors didn't move Thompson was they didn't want to take the defensive hit from the upgrade to Love at PF. Do you think they want to take a defensive hit for a DOWNGRADE COMPLETELY at power forward if they started STAT or Bargs.
STAT is playing for his next contract. He gets the ball, the ball is going up. He has no function or use on an actual 2nd tier contender.
Lee may not be a contract that they want, but he's not a complete liability all the way through to the end of it. Iguolada might not longer be a plus defender, but at least he can defend his own weight.
Green is a really nice young player. He offers value all across the board. 2018 is a LONG TIME from now. Can the Warriors get a player better than Green in 2018 in whatever projected draft slot that the Knicks would get? Would the Knicks unprotect that pick in a trade? ( the only way the Warriors would even consider it, and they'd only consider it if they were insane)
2nd Tier contenders aren't looking to gut themselves from the edge of contention, they are hoping for an injury to a Tier 1 team to see if they can push through one year.
This trade suggestion, is again, basic a gang rape in a prison shower. It's 7-8 huge guys covered in tats with one holding a shiv to someone's throat and everyone taking a turn. It's the Knicks dumping off their trash and roster churn ( to be fair to THJ, young guys like him and what he can offer won't crack the Warriors playoff rotation. Early is an unknown and rookies don't easily crack a playoff bound rotation ) for actual assets.
A practical trade scenario has to make sense for both teams. At least in theory. At least in perception and appearance from outsiders to those two teams. If the Knicks offered a 2015 first and 2017 first, plus the 2nds they coughed up already to Philly, plus STAT ( so Philly could hit the salary floor and not continue to incite the other owners) for MCW and Thad Young (had the Knicks moved earlier) and roster churn, that is a trade, that in theory, fits a potential current trajectory for both teams ( i.e. the 76ers are just stockpiling draft assets, they can hope the Knicks continue to suck and those picks will be high, taking in STAT would hit their salary floor needs so they don't continue to antagonize the rest of the league and owners with what is seen as openly surrendering multiple seasons, the Knicks get some actual talent in positions they could use help in and concede that they won't tank and won't contend, but at least can put on a decent show each night for their fans until the Melo/Calderon contracts burn out and they can start over.)
This scenario with the Warriors offer the Dubs more problems than solutions. Why would they do it? They wouldn't. Having too many guys to pay is a problem down the road, but they can settle that down the road, like all teams looking to push now have to do.
It's about financial flexbility for Warriors
Having the ability to retool around Curry and Klay
On dimes that make sense
Lee and Iggy you better believe are trading chips
It's just a matter of when
With the trade it opens the door for them
To grab free agents in 2015 of 2016
For us it's a matter of hedging on 2015 being a coup or not
11/1/2014 11:54 PM
