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ATrain
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6/23/2012  11:54 PM
VCoug wrote:
callmened wrote:Too bad we wont be able to afford to sign nash. A more realistic option is felton

Why do people keep on saying this? Nash has all but said that he's leaving Phoenix to sign with a contender to try and win a championship. If that's what he wants to do, he's going to have to accept some team's exception, no contender will be able to offer a market value contract. I would love to get him here, he's still one of the best pg's in the league, probably only second to Rondo in terms of running an offense. But, if I were him, I'd be talking with OKC before anyone else.


+1
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RonRon
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6/24/2012  12:22 AM
ATrain wrote:
VCoug wrote:
callmened wrote:Too bad we wont be able to afford to sign nash. A more realistic option is felton

Why do people keep on saying this? Nash has all but said that he's leaving Phoenix to sign with a contender to try and win a championship. If that's what he wants to do, he's going to have to accept some team's exception, no contender will be able to offer a market value contract. I would love to get him here, he's still one of the best pg's in the league, probably only second to Rondo in terms of running an offense. But, if I were him, I'd be talking with OKC before anyone else.


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very true about Nash and OKC.
Now this is a young team that has just got a taste of a finals appearance, that Nash can mentor and teach.
They have players that are all have the ability to penetrate and hit shots, but they did not adjust to Miami's defense on them without player movement.
They have the tools to be a good defensive team with a great offense, they just need to take quality shots consistently, with good spacing.
Relying too much on their physical abilities and not enough plays and team work this year.
Every one is still very young and can correct and change their bad habits.

Heart, effort, and skill is there already, if Westbrook and Harden, can take a page out Nash's game, they will be able to learn to utilize what they can do to open up games for the team. Execution, along with probing, and reading the defense, are mental aspects of the game that Nash can teach this time.
The use of picks and how to perfect the passing part of the pick and roll, as well as constant movement, and floor spacing.
From the player setting the pick and how he can be used as an option if Westbrook would just wait for the pick to be set and see how the defender would defend him and the cutter.
Not rushing at 100%, going for the 2point finish, or jump shot every time.
It also would help if Ibaka would develop some post moves so he can play the Center, with Durant at PF opening up the lane for him 1v1 to do work.
Nash would be able to mentor and chase his chances at a ring, while showing how affect the culture of a team.
He would not be as big of a defensive liability in OKC, with Westbrook, Sefalosha/Harden, Durant, Ibaka, and Perkins/Collison covering for him.
Lin/Nash would not be able to coexist together defensively, that would be 2 positions that would be having to give too much help too and probably still not defend, verse just 1 position in OKC, with Nash.

Our "Big 3" are quite late in their stages to learn fundamentals to their games and have been doing too many bad habits.
With Amare adapting to playing PF with a Center that is not an offensive threat.
Melo's ability to take poor shot selections constantly and to not trust his team.
His inability to pass out of the double teams and look for his team.
Tyson's unwillingness to take a 17footer to make the defense jump out on him.

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6/24/2012  12:28 AM
TymeLessKnicks wrote:I think we need to find a replacement for Shumperts perimiter defense. He was that good.

Although he was fat, I would welcome Felton back because if his perimiter defense and his familiarity with Amare.

Unfortunately we are not only lacking perimeter D without shump but we are EXtremely lacking efficient shooting from the SHOOTING GUARD position

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6/24/2012  12:30 AM
Knicks focus wilk not be centered around nash. They dont have time to waste. Kidd will be a knick and nash will get close to $10mil
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6/24/2012  1:09 AM
Wake up Mr. West!!!
callmened
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6/24/2012  1:31 AM
gunsnewing wrote:Knicks focus will not be centered around nash. They dont have time to waste. Kidd will be a knick and nash will get close to $10mil


+1000

nash isnt coming here folks!

Knicks should be improved: win about 40 games and maybe sneak into the playoffs. Melo, Rose and even Noah will have some nice moments however this team should be about PORZINGUS. the sooner they make him the primary player, the better
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7/6/2012  10:57 AM
Looking at this list and what we have signed...we need a SG that can shoot 3s. I am not sure if these guys are already signed but I would go after Mickael Pietrus or Marco Belinelli with the mini-midlevel.
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RonRon wrote:they most likely would, so is Nash who many want to target.
There are not many worthy players that I think we can afford to over pay or take chances on like Ray Allen and Terry.
Would rather like to see players who will come be at a discount than over pay.

Beasley is an interesting option, if the TWolves do not offer him a qualifying offer.
With Wesley Johnson and Derrick Williams in the mix already, they just might let Beasley, AR and Webster go, wouldn't be surprised if all 3 were let go.
Beasley had a great year 2 years ago, in 2011, but he played more as a 1st/2nd option.
He was injured for much of this season, but when Rubio, Kevin Love, and JJ Barea went down, he showed glimpses of why he drafted with potential.
Like Melo, he seems like he is a high volume scorer, that excels in a fast paced game vs a half court offense.
Cons include a low basketball IQ and has lack of a motor at times.
Pros are that he has physical talent, good size at the SF, with the ability to rebound, and score in bunches.
He relies much on his shot, but at the MLE, and for his age, that would be the only reason such a high draft pick would be available.
I would have a tough time deciding signing 2 players like Odom, Ak47, Mahimi, and even Kenyon Martin vs Beasley.
But I can see why Briggs would like to take a chance with a player like Beasley, especially if we can sign another vet with a LLE.
Maybe a little less than the FULL MLE, if Twolves let him go, so we can use a little of that room to sign a player that goes undrafted think it will be like starting at 500k for 2-3 years along with our 2nd round pick.


http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/min/rosterhttp://

Before winning this arbitration, I was looking at cheap candidates to fill up our roster, not sure if they will get a look at a roster spot now that we won though.
Was wondering what you guys thought about these type of energy players of the bench, in limited minutes?
I also like Anthony Tolliver from the Twolves and DeMarre Carroll in Utah, as a cheap options, nice hustle players like junkyard Dog.
Tolliver is a forward that knows his role, hit the wide open 3, and provide hustle, energy, rebounds, defense, and runs the floor well.
You can look back, when he is giving a chance to play, he is really effective for short minutes as a starter or a 8th man + in his career with 15-25minutes a game.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/4371/gamelog;_ylt=AtEbxVzgwJdyGvcONb3D.ZrHPaB4?year=2010http://

DeMarre Carroll lead Utah back to a more respectable game as they were getting swept by Spurs at home this season.
Poppavich, was set to give Duncan, Parker, and Ginobili to sit out the rest of the game, till Carroll lead the Utah Jazz back with his hustle, energy, and defense.
Forcing a more respectable score, The Spur's big 3 to come back in to close to game, but unable to avoid the sweep from The Spurs.
He was picked up from the D League, and has shown limited production with limited minutes.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/4632/gamelog;_ylt=AiSO76Dtxyp3xc7NFN09RDikvLYF

As for players like Anthony Tolliver and DeMarre Carroll, I feel they give 110% in practice with effort, intensity, work ethic, and remind some players especially that there are players that are hungry and willing to play tough defense if you are not. They might not be talented like many players but they have love for the game, heart, and bring their work ethic in to practice/games. Having some players like this would be good examples for our 2nd round picks and players we sign that go undrafted.

With the way they have been inviting so many players with only one 48th pick and the 35 year old PG from Spain, management were ready to take different approaches.
I think they will wait and see who falls out of the draft, now we have the ability to sign a few players in this deep draft as cheap option for 2-3years with a little part of our MLE.

This would probably be our last MLE we can use till Melo opts(earliest) out in 2 years, assuming we resign Lin, with just the mini MLE at 3m to use.
So till ATM are contracts are done, this will be our last chance to acquire talent in FA.

one of my targets in the past

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