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BigDaddyG
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10/2/2020  1:24 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
franco12 wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:With Robinson and Woods on the court at same time would shut down opponents interior offense — allows guys like frank barrett to play over 3 point line
We’d be one of the bettter defensive teams and in the o a high efficiency interior team Draft two 3 point shooters and all of a sudden u have a team

You really think having two slow ass big man on the court at the same time in a space and pace era of basketball is a good thing.

Let also not forget that Woods put up lofty #s in his last 18 or so games(3-15), In the last 14 games the pistons went 1-13 while woods avg 24ppg and 9rbs in that span.

Robinson abd woods both get up and down well.

Mitch 2k ratings

69 Athleticism
48 Speed

25 Acceleration
65 Strength
83 Vertical
85 Stamina
95 Hustle
80 Overall Durability

D Howards 2k ratings

75 Athleticism
70 Speed

54 Acceleration
88 Strength
80 Vertical
77 Stamina
75 Hustle
82 Overall Durability

Woods 2k rating

57 Athleticism
51 Speed

54 Acceleration
54 Vertical
55 Strength
75 Stamina
71 Hustle
80 Overall durability

Mitch is one of the slowest big men in the league, you can not pair him up with woods

are those video game ratings?

Dude I'm not saying this is super accurate cause it absolutely is not, but it does give a general idea of a players attributes.

Just look around the league, what teams has two big men in there front court, this isn't the Ewing/Shaq/Hakeem era

I personally wouldn't do it, one would start, the other would come ff the bench.


Those ranking get adjusted all the time. Use your eyes. Mitch is not slower than Dwight.
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10/2/2020  2:45 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
franco12 wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:With Robinson and Woods on the court at same time would shut down opponents interior offense — allows guys like frank barrett to play over 3 point line
We’d be one of the bettter defensive teams and in the o a high efficiency interior team Draft two 3 point shooters and all of a sudden u have a team

You really think having two slow ass big man on the court at the same time in a space and pace era of basketball is a good thing.

Let also not forget that Woods put up lofty #s in his last 18 or so games(3-15), In the last 14 games the pistons went 1-13 while woods avg 24ppg and 9rbs in that span.

Robinson abd woods both get up and down well.

Mitch 2k ratings

69 Athleticism
48 Speed

25 Acceleration
65 Strength
83 Vertical
85 Stamina
95 Hustle
80 Overall Durability

D Howards 2k ratings

75 Athleticism
70 Speed

54 Acceleration
88 Strength
80 Vertical
77 Stamina
75 Hustle
82 Overall Durability

Woods 2k rating

57 Athleticism
51 Speed

54 Acceleration
54 Vertical
55 Strength
75 Stamina
71 Hustle
80 Overall durability

Mitch is one of the slowest big men in the league, you can not pair him up with woods

are those video game ratings?

Dude I'm not saying this is super accurate cause it absolutely is not, but it does give a general idea of a players attributes.

Just look around the league, what teams has two big men in there front court, this isn't the Ewing/Shaq/Hakeem era

I personally wouldn't do it, one would start, the other would come ff the bench.


Those ranking get adjusted all the time. Use your eyes. Mitch is not slower than Dwight.

Even for the sake of argument, don't you see that the defense being played now is mostly switch on every thing. While everyone is playing small ball, you want us to trot out 2 twin towers.

Two big man that don't even combine to avg 2 assist, I don't see how that would work

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10/2/2020  3:00 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
franco12 wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:With Robinson and Woods on the court at same time would shut down opponents interior offense — allows guys like frank barrett to play over 3 point line
We’d be one of the bettter defensive teams and in the o a high efficiency interior team Draft two 3 point shooters and all of a sudden u have a team

You really think having two slow ass big man on the court at the same time in a space and pace era of basketball is a good thing.

Let also not forget that Woods put up lofty #s in his last 18 or so games(3-15), In the last 14 games the pistons went 1-13 while woods avg 24ppg and 9rbs in that span.

Robinson abd woods both get up and down well.

Mitch 2k ratings

69 Athleticism
48 Speed

25 Acceleration
65 Strength
83 Vertical
85 Stamina
95 Hustle
80 Overall Durability

D Howards 2k ratings

75 Athleticism
70 Speed

54 Acceleration
88 Strength
80 Vertical
77 Stamina
75 Hustle
82 Overall Durability

Woods 2k rating

57 Athleticism
51 Speed

54 Acceleration
54 Vertical
55 Strength
75 Stamina
71 Hustle
80 Overall durability

Mitch is one of the slowest big men in the league, you can not pair him up with woods

are those video game ratings?

Dude I'm not saying this is super accurate cause it absolutely is not, but it does give a general idea of a players attributes.

Just look around the league, what teams has two big men in there front court, this isn't the Ewing/Shaq/Hakeem era

I personally wouldn't do it, one would start, the other would come ff the bench.


Those ranking get adjusted all the time. Use your eyes. Mitch is not slower than Dwight.

Even for the sake of argument, don't you see that the defense being played now is mostly switch on every thing. While everyone is playing small ball, you want us to trot out 2 twin towers.

Two big man that don't even combine to avg 2 assist, I don't see how that would work

I agree with this. Wiseman hasn't shown enough to expect him to be a stretch big and he guards the perimeter worse than Mitch. They can't start together.

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10/2/2020  5:50 PM
HofstraBBall wrote:
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BRIGGS wrote:With Robinson and Woods on the court at same time would shut down opponents interior offense — allows guys like frank barrett to play over 3 point line
We’d be one of the bettter defensive teams and in the o a high efficiency interior team Draft two 3 point shooters and all of a sudden u have a team

While I agree with the ideals. Woods isn't particularly strong defensively. Not enough to have the type of defense you are envisioning. And while he put up strong offensive production it was only for a hand full of games.

I think he has good potential as well. But what is the asking price?

Agree with this. Also feel it is hard to say if last year was the beginning of a break out career or a fluke. Maybe a good idea to go after a free agent that has had a bigger sample size of success. I think a guy like Dragic would be more impactful. Also like Bogdanovic for his shooting. And we all know we need shooting. But again, agree with the premise that it all depends on price. And how that

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10/2/2020  10:48 PM
I see d Howard and a Davis playing pretty darn good together in the finals
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10/2/2020  11:01 PM
BRIGGS wrote:I see d Howard and a Davis playing pretty darn good together in the finals

Are you comparing Anthony Davis to Christian Wood?

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10/2/2020  11:40 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:I see d Howard and a Davis playing pretty darn good together in the finals

Are you comparing Anthony Davis to Christian Wood?

is he comparing howard to mitch

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10/2/2020  11:55 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:I see d Howard and a Davis playing pretty darn good together in the finals

Are you comparing Anthony Davis to Christian Wood?

is he comparing howard to mitch


And I guess Knox is our Kuzma and RJ is our LeBron. Frank can be our Rondo and Briggs can be our coach Fizdale.
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10/3/2020  1:33 AM
BigDaddyG wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
franco12 wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:With Robinson and Woods on the court at same time would shut down opponents interior offense — allows guys like frank barrett to play over 3 point line
We’d be one of the bettter defensive teams and in the o a high efficiency interior team Draft two 3 point shooters and all of a sudden u have a team

You really think having two slow ass big man on the court at the same time in a space and pace era of basketball is a good thing.

Let also not forget that Woods put up lofty #s in his last 18 or so games(3-15), In the last 14 games the pistons went 1-13 while woods avg 24ppg and 9rbs in that span.

Robinson abd woods both get up and down well.

Mitch 2k ratings

69 Athleticism
48 Speed

25 Acceleration
65 Strength
83 Vertical
85 Stamina
95 Hustle
80 Overall Durability

D Howards 2k ratings

75 Athleticism
70 Speed

54 Acceleration
88 Strength
80 Vertical
77 Stamina
75 Hustle
82 Overall Durability

Woods 2k rating

57 Athleticism
51 Speed

54 Acceleration
54 Vertical
55 Strength
75 Stamina
71 Hustle
80 Overall durability

Mitch is one of the slowest big men in the league, you can not pair him up with woods

are those video game ratings?

Dude I'm not saying this is super accurate cause it absolutely is not, but it does give a general idea of a players attributes.

Just look around the league, what teams has two big men in there front court, this isn't the Ewing/Shaq/Hakeem era

I personally wouldn't do it, one would start, the other would come ff the bench.


Those ranking get adjusted all the time. Use your eyes. Mitch is not slower than Dwight.

1248, You can try, but we just can’t unsee that you posted video game and tried to use that as a real analytic.
Thats like jerking off to Jessica Rabbit or Lola Bunny. you can, but don’t tell anyone.
If you want to rank players via video go ahead but don’t tell anyone.

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10/3/2020  5:17 AM
BigDaddyG wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:I see d Howard and a Davis playing pretty darn good together in the finals

Are you comparing Anthony Davis to Christian Wood?

I’m not saying C Wood is Davis but he’s the closet thing to him in free agency. He s a poor mans Davis. He’s got the size athletic ability length shot making ability. It’s possible he just gets better. Can I say the same about Bertans or Joe Harris etc. no. Having Woods / Robinson with Randle as sixth man would give us an advantage inside every night. I think these finals are proving inside matters. We can find a nice 3 point shooter at draft pick 8. I don’t think we have the basketball insight to try this angle. This team will go for 36 yo chris paul —- I’m convinced of it. I expect paul and Carmelo —- but we will sck.

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10/6/2020  8:12 AM    LAST EDITED: 10/6/2020  8:20 AM
Waiting for the TripleThreat update on the C Wood mentality issue.
Worth the wait, even if it is possibly mostly re-run material.

Mitch as DHoward. LMAO
I smell a "Let's look at the LeBLakers method of building for a chip" thread coming soon...

"Eff these kids! Get Lebron, and then let's sell everything off for Luka or Kahwi or Lillard or PG!..."

BRIGGS Sees Wood in Spring:
http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=59922&page=4

BRIGGS See Wood in Summer:
http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=61164

Christmas Wood is coming!

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10/6/2020  8:53 AM
jrodmc wrote:Waiting for the TripleThreat update on the C Wood mentality issue.
Worth the wait, even if it is possibly mostly re-run material.

Mitch as DHoward. LMAO
I smell a "Let's look at the LeBLakers method of building for a chip" thread coming soon...

"Eff these kids! Get Lebron, and then let's sell everything off for Luka or Kahwi or Lillard or PG!..."

BRIGGS Sees Wood in Spring:
http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=59922&page=4

BRIGGS See Wood in Summer:
http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=61164

Christmas Wood is coming!

Thats the route were going..

Looking at the Lakers roster, how many players on that championship roster were drafted by the Lakers.

The knick's haven't proven they can develop their young players, thats why they continue to have little to know value, or we would be able to possible used them to trade for the stars you listed.

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10/6/2020  10:54 AM
jrodmc wrote:Waiting for the TripleThreat update on the C Wood mentality issue.
Worth the wait, even if it is possibly mostly re-run material.

Mitch as DHoward. LMAO
I smell a "Let's look at the LeBLakers method of building for a chip" thread coming soon...

"Eff these kids! Get Lebron, and then let's sell everything off for Luka or Kahwi or Lillard or PG!..."

BRIGGS Sees Wood in Spring:
http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=59922&page=4

BRIGGS See Wood in Summer:
http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=61164

Christmas Wood is coming!

He’s just one of the better players. He’s just showing tip of ice berg. There are only a few talented 6-11 players who n earth.

RIP Crushalot😞
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10/6/2020  1:22 PM    LAST EDITED: 10/6/2020  1:22 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
jrodmc wrote:Waiting for the TripleThreat update on the C Wood mentality issue.
Worth the wait, even if it is possibly mostly re-run material.

Mitch as DHoward. LMAO
I smell a "Let's look at the LeBLakers method of building for a chip" thread coming soon...

"Eff these kids! Get Lebron, and then let's sell everything off for Luka or Kahwi or Lillard or PG!..."

BRIGGS Sees Wood in Spring:
http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=59922&page=4

BRIGGS See Wood in Summer:
http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=61164

Christmas Wood is coming!

He’s just one of the better players. He’s just showing tip of ice berg. There are only a few talented 6-11 players who n earth.

Could be, but it's not like we're talking about a Spree-level reclamation project here. Track record is just not there.
And he's a pseudo-documented chucklehead. That sort of negates the can't coach height aspect. Especially in this franchise's sometimes nutfarm atmosphere.

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10/6/2020  3:01 PM    LAST EDITED: 10/6/2020  3:03 PM
jrodmc wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
jrodmc wrote:Waiting for the TripleThreat update on the C Wood mentality issue.
Worth the wait, even if it is possibly mostly re-run material.

Mitch as DHoward. LMAO
I smell a "Let's look at the LeBLakers method of building for a chip" thread coming soon...

"Eff these kids! Get Lebron, and then let's sell everything off for Luka or Kahwi or Lillard or PG!..."

BRIGGS Sees Wood in Spring:
http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=59922&page=4

BRIGGS See Wood in Summer:
http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=61164

Christmas Wood is coming!

He’s just one of the better players. He’s just showing tip of ice berg. There are only a few talented 6-11 players who n earth.

Could be, but it's not like we're talking about a Spree-level reclamation project here. Track record is just not there.
And he's a pseudo-documented chucklehead. That sort of negates the can't coach height aspect. Especially in this franchise's sometimes nutfarm atmosphere.

I think who you are at 25 compared to 19 mentally is someone different in most cases.
He could’ve been out of the league. Instead he can go toe toe with any good big from 3 levels.
Joe Harris is not doing that
Knicks with Randle Robinson woods become a top 3 interior team. We have a scorer. We will have added 3 point shooters

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10/6/2020  3:32 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
jrodmc wrote:Waiting for the TripleThreat update on the C Wood mentality issue.
Worth the wait, even if it is possibly mostly re-run material.

Mitch as DHoward. LMAO
I smell a "Let's look at the LeBLakers method of building for a chip" thread coming soon...

"Eff these kids! Get Lebron, and then let's sell everything off for Luka or Kahwi or Lillard or PG!..."

BRIGGS Sees Wood in Spring:
http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=59922&page=4

BRIGGS See Wood in Summer:
http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=61164

Christmas Wood is coming!

He’s just one of the better players. He’s just showing tip of ice berg. There are only a few talented 6-11 players who n earth.

Could be, but it's not like we're talking about a Spree-level reclamation project here. Track record is just not there.
And he's a pseudo-documented chucklehead. That sort of negates the can't coach height aspect. Especially in this franchise's sometimes nutfarm atmosphere.

I think who you are at 25 compared to 19 mentally is someone different in most cases.
He could’ve been out of the league. Instead he can go toe toe with any good big from 3 levels.
Joe Harris is not doing that
Knicks with Randle Robinson woods become a top 3 interior team. We have a scorer. We will have added 3 point shooters


Briggs I am with you on this one. We hear these rumors about a broken down Victor Oladipo or the $85 million senior citizen Chris Paul. Of course these are just rumors but if these rumors are true then it is indeed same old Knicks. If the Knicks really are a changed franchise CHRISTIAN WOOD should be the main free agent they should be interested in.
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10/16/2020  12:43 PM
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I wouldn't mind him at that price, but I think it's at least $3m to low.

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10/16/2020  12:56 PM
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I wouldn't mind him at that price, but I think it's at least $3m to low.

Why? I think it has to do with the salary cap number either staying where it is or going down. How many teams will be under the cap enough to want/need a player like him and offer him $12m+?

Market will be thin, thus the MLE is my guess. That's what the market will most likely give him unless it is Detroit

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10/16/2020  2:25 PM
martin wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
martin wrote:

I wouldn't mind him at that price, but I think it's at least $3m to low.

Why? I think it has to do with the salary cap number either staying where it is or going down. How many teams will be under the cap enough to want/need a player like him and offer him $12m+?

Market will be thin, thus the MLE is my guess. That's what the market will most likely give him unless it is Detroit


Yeah, but is it out of the question for the Knicks to offer a deal slightly higher than the MLE if the reports of their interest are true? The Hornets also have cap space and have been rumored to have interest in Wood. It only takes one team. My question is how high would Detroit go to match? A lot of things could go down between now and the draft, so the MLE might be his only option when it's all said and done. But I think he can get a little more.
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