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Mitch and Christian wood would give us the best young front court in nba
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BRIGGS
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8/22/2020  8:48 PM
Incredible length at the hoop all the way out to 3.interchangeable parts Can both play with randle( at least for next year) will give us an advantage every game inside on both ends. Both can shoot 3s

C-Robinson
F-Woods
F-Barrett
6th man Randle

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8/22/2020  10:56 PM
I like Wood as well. It’s the right kind of free agent acquisition. Only question is whether you give up cap flexibility for this before you solve PG and SF. I think you need to move Randle to make this acquisition.
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8/22/2020  11:01 PM
I don’t really love moving Barrett to SF to accommodate Nesmith. I currently see Barrett as a defensive liability. Some of his benefit is his size at the SG, which you would trade to make him an undersized SF. I’m looking for a guy that can help Barrett by taking the dominant wing on D. That’s where I see a Vassel outperforming Nesmith. Or Okoro (although I am looking for stronger 3 pt shooting).
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8/23/2020  12:01 AM
Depends on how much, thing with wood is he put up numbers when the pistons were already tanking.
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8/23/2020  3:05 AM
BRIGGS wrote:Incredible length at the hoop all the way out to 3.interchangeable parts Can both play with randle( at least for next year) will give us an advantage every game inside on both ends. Both can shoot 3s

C-Robinson
F-Woods
F-Barrett
6th man Randle



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8/23/2020  3:14 AM
If Toppin is available when detroit picks, do you think they will consider drafting him so that they wont have to sign Woods to a huge contract? This might open up for the knicks to take Hayes at 8, then sign Woods in the offseason to a more reasonable contract?
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8/23/2020  4:14 AM
If he's so good, why would Detroit let him walk? You never answer this, you just make new threads saying the same thing!
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8/23/2020  6:24 AM    LAST EDITED: 8/23/2020  6:24 AM
EwingsGlass wrote:I don’t really love moving Barrett to SF to accommodate Nesmith. I currently see Barrett as a defensive liability. Some of his benefit is his size at the SG, which you would trade to make him an undersized SF. I’m looking for a guy that can help Barrett by taking the dominant wing on D. That’s where I see a Vassel outperforming Nesmith. Or Okoro (although I am looking for stronger 3 pt shooting).

RJ is 6'7" (at least under the old way of measuring) and 200 lbs. Enough to hold his own at the SF position, ability to defend better will come with experience. I hope he will become our Pippen eventually, maybe even Kawhi, but in the worst case scenario he could be a Ron Artest with a brain. Not a bad thing at all. All those guys excelled at the SF position. Put him with a decent sized shooting guard like a Nesmith, you also have Frank in the backcourt, and you are not giving up size to opposing teams at all.

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8/23/2020  8:09 AM
smackeddog wrote:If he's so good, why would Detroit let him walk? You never answer this, you just make new threads saying the same thing!

Wood is ufa. He is no ones property. He’s the only 24 year old 3 level Athletic skilled big To choose from — he is KPs replacement piece

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8/23/2020  9:15 AM
Lol, I just read it again, you want him to start and Randle to come off the bench????

Goodluck with that! You need to trade Randle if you sign him.

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8/23/2020  10:08 AM
unstopaball12 wrote:Lol, I just read it again, you want him to start and Randle to come off the bench????

Goodluck with that! You need to trade Randle if you sign him.

Kevin Mchale came off the bench? I think most people don’t want Randle. I’m actually not in that group — but I think his best position is like montrelll Hazrell— 25-30 min off the bench. I like the defense that wood and mitch could give us to start games — the 6 th man is a scoring injection

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8/23/2020  10:52 AM
BRIGGS wrote:
unstopaball12 wrote:Lol, I just read it again, you want him to start and Randle to come off the bench????

Goodluck with that! You need to trade Randle if you sign him.

Kevin Mchale came off the bench? I think most people don’t want Randle. I’m actually not in that group — but I think his best position is like montrelll Hazrell— 25-30 min off the bench. I like the defense that wood and mitch could give us to start games — the 6 th man is a scoring injection

Lol mchale came of the bench for a championship team, no way I see him coming off the bench on a potential championship team for a journeyman who put up empty stats when the team started to tank

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EwingsGlass wrote:I don’t really love moving Barrett to SF to accommodate Nesmith. I currently see Barrett as a defensive liability. Some of his benefit is his size at the SG, which you would trade to make him an undersized SF. I’m looking for a guy that can help Barrett by taking the dominant wing on D. That’s where I see a Vassel outperforming Nesmith. Or Okoro (although I am looking for stronger 3 pt shooting).

RJ is 6'7" (at least under the old way of measuring) and 200 lbs. Enough to hold his own at the SF position, ability to defend better will come with experience. I hope he will become our Pippen eventually, maybe even Kawhi, but in the worst case scenario he could be a Ron Artest with a brain. Not a bad thing at all. All those guys excelled at the SF position. Put him with a decent sized shooting guard like a Nesmith, you also have Frank in the backcourt, and you are not giving up size to opposing teams at all.

While true, you are taking a size advantage at SG and eliminating it at SF. Barrett may end up at SF in his career, but right now, while his outside shot is under construction, he has a lot of advantages posting up smaller SGs on the block. You give that up by moving him to SF, turning him into basically a pure slasher, which he isn’t really that fast. I really like him at SG with size on his side. Would love to see him work with the floor spread a little further.

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8/23/2020  11:44 AM    LAST EDITED: 8/23/2020  11:52 AM
BRIGGS wrote:
smackeddog wrote:If he's so good, why would Detroit let him walk? You never answer this, you just make new threads saying the same thing!

Wood is ufa. He is no ones property. He’s the only 24 year old 3 level Athletic skilled big To choose from — he is KPs replacement piece

I read this, not sure how true:

A: It seems that Wood is in a good spot for a hefty raise with his breakout season. The issue is that there aren’t many teams with available cap space this summer. Wood is an unrestricted free agent and unless a team like the Hawks, Hornets or Knicks breaks the bank for him, he’ll more likely get an offer for the nontaxpayer midlevel exception, which is about $10 million.

The Pistons have Wood’s early Bird rights, so they can go higher than another team’s offer to retain him. That seems to be the likely direction things will go.

From what Wood has shown this year, the talent and consistency are there. The only hesitation might be whether he can maintain that same level over the long term. That’s a valid concern, but the Pistons can’t afford to lose Wood because they don’t have another center signed for next year, either.

https://eu.detroitnews.com/story/sports/nba/pistons/2020/03/10/pistons-mailbag-christian-wood-due-payday/5009322002/

and this:

It’s the biggest contract of his career but when Wood becomes an unrestricted free agent in the summer, he's is in line for a big payday, possibly in the range of $10 million or more per season. The Pistons have Wood’s early Bird rights, which means they can outbid another team coveting Wood in free agency.

https://eu.detroitnews.com/story/sports/nba/pistons/2020/03/15/christian-woods-coronavirus-diagnosis-derails-pistons-player-rolling-pinnacle-his-career/5054656002/

Anyone know? I can never remember how early bird rights work- could another team offer him a max, or can they only offer him around $10mil per? And how much can Detroit exceed that?

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BRIGGS wrote:
smackeddog wrote:If he's so good, why would Detroit let him walk? You never answer this, you just make new threads saying the same thing!

Wood is ufa. He is no ones property. He’s the only 24 year old 3 level Athletic skilled big To choose from — he is KPs replacement piece

I read this, not sure how true:

A: It seems that Wood is in a good spot for a hefty raise with his breakout season. The issue is that there aren’t many teams with available cap space this summer. Wood is an unrestricted free agent and unless a team like the Hawks, Hornets or Knicks breaks the bank for him, he’ll more likely get an offer for the nontaxpayer midlevel exception, which is about $10 million.

The Pistons have Wood’s early Bird rights, so they can go higher than another team’s offer to retain him. That seems to be the likely direction things will go.

From what Wood has shown this year, the talent and consistency are there. The only hesitation might be whether he can maintain that same level over the long term. That’s a valid concern, but the Pistons can’t afford to lose Wood because they don’t have another center signed for next year, either.

https://eu.detroitnews.com/story/sports/nba/pistons/2020/03/10/pistons-mailbag-christian-wood-due-payday/5009322002/

and this:

It’s the biggest contract of his career but when Wood becomes an unrestricted free agent in the summer, he's is in line for a big payday, possibly in the range of $10 million or more per season. The Pistons have Wood’s early Bird rights, which means they can outbid another team coveting Wood in free agency.

https://eu.detroitnews.com/story/sports/nba/pistons/2020/03/15/christian-woods-coronavirus-diagnosis-derails-pistons-player-rolling-pinnacle-his-career/5054656002/

Anyone know? I can never remember how early bird rights work- could another team offer him a max, or can they only offer him around $10mil per? And how much can Detroit exceed that?

I’m willing to do full max for two years with team option for 3. What’s the difference we paid combo of Portis Gibson more

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8/23/2020  12:29 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
smackeddog wrote:If he's so good, why would Detroit let him walk? You never answer this, you just make new threads saying the same thing!

Wood is ufa. He is no ones property. He’s the only 24 year old 3 level Athletic skilled big To choose from — he is KPs replacement piece

I read this, not sure how true:

A: It seems that Wood is in a good spot for a hefty raise with his breakout season. The issue is that there aren’t many teams with available cap space this summer. Wood is an unrestricted free agent and unless a team like the Hawks, Hornets or Knicks breaks the bank for him, he’ll more likely get an offer for the nontaxpayer midlevel exception, which is about $10 million.

The Pistons have Wood’s early Bird rights, so they can go higher than another team’s offer to retain him. That seems to be the likely direction things will go.

From what Wood has shown this year, the talent and consistency are there. The only hesitation might be whether he can maintain that same level over the long term. That’s a valid concern, but the Pistons can’t afford to lose Wood because they don’t have another center signed for next year, either.

https://eu.detroitnews.com/story/sports/nba/pistons/2020/03/10/pistons-mailbag-christian-wood-due-payday/5009322002/

and this:

It’s the biggest contract of his career but when Wood becomes an unrestricted free agent in the summer, he's is in line for a big payday, possibly in the range of $10 million or more per season. The Pistons have Wood’s early Bird rights, which means they can outbid another team coveting Wood in free agency.

https://eu.detroitnews.com/story/sports/nba/pistons/2020/03/15/christian-woods-coronavirus-diagnosis-derails-pistons-player-rolling-pinnacle-his-career/5054656002/

Anyone know? I can never remember how early bird rights work- could another team offer him a max, or can they only offer him around $10mil per? And how much can Detroit exceed that?

I’m willing to do full max for two years with team option for 3. What’s the difference we paid combo of Portis Gibson more

Are you allowed to though? Or do early bird rights mean you are limited to around $10mil per and Detroit can go higher?

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8/23/2020  12:40 PM
unstopaball12 wrote:Depends on how much, thing with wood is he put up numbers when the pistons were already tanking.


The problem with Wood, aside from his knucklehead problem, is that the current CBA doesn't allow for more than one option year for non rookie contracts.

Guys like Whiteside and Wood were tailor made for stacking team option years.

It's not that teams don't like Christian Wood's game, it's that they don't trust him as a person. He hasn't shown over time that kind of consistency that warrants a big long term deal. He may get one because of market dysfunction/systemic dysfunction in the league salary structure but he hasn't earned one.

I wouldn't want the Knicks to sign him because he's a knucklehead. Maybe a team like the Spurs could contain him but not the Knicks. You also have to ask if you want your young players around the guy.

As for non Knicks team, they'd be better off offering him a 1 + 1, the second year being a team option. Since he can do better in Detroit, I don't see him leaving.

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8/23/2020  1:26 PM
TripleThreat wrote:
unstopaball12 wrote:Depends on how much, thing with wood is he put up numbers when the pistons were already tanking.


The problem with Wood, aside from his knucklehead problem, is that the current CBA doesn't allow for more than one option year for non rookie contracts.

Guys like Whiteside and Wood were tailor made for stacking team option years.

It's not that teams don't like Christian Wood's game, it's that they don't trust him as a person. He hasn't shown over time that kind of consistency that warrants a big long term deal. He may get one because of market dysfunction/systemic dysfunction in the league salary structure but he hasn't earned one.

I wouldn't want the Knicks to sign him because he's a knucklehead. Maybe a team like the Spurs could contain him but not the Knicks. You also have to ask if you want your young players around the guy.

As for non Knicks team, they'd be better off offering him a 1 + 1, the second year being a team option. Since he can do better in Detroit, I don't see him leaving.


Looking at his stats, what popped is, he played 8 games for the pelicans in 2018-2019 and averaged 17/8, but signed with the bucks the following year and was waived after a few games. There could be something wrong with him that we don't know about and that is with him earning minimum money, what more with a max deal.

Mitch and Christian wood would give us the best young front court in nba

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