Knickoftime wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:Knickoftime wrote:fishmike wrote:Knickoftime wrote:fishmike wrote:total bull****, and the its regurgitated bull****, the worst kind. This has literally become cliches of bad reporting: "Ntilikina was a triangle pick"
5 B's
3 C's
3 D's
3 F's
Who cares. Its ESPN. They mocked the Knicks at the ESPYs.
ESPN treats the Knicks like FoxNews treats Obama.
Genuine question.
When have they been wrong?
It seems like every year the press is down in the Knicks in the offeason, fans are more optimistic, and the fans complain the press are just Knicks haters.
Then the Knicks go out and have a year eerily like the one the haters predicted they would.
I mean, am i wrong here? When have the Knicks exceeded the pre-season hate by the press?
thats the point. There is no expectation. No win total. No mention of whether or not THjr is a good fit, or anything besides they overpaid. The only way you can sign and RFA is to overpay.So yea... when I say "you suck" with no real quantifiable justification then yea... its hating.
If the all the press has done is non-quantified, non-justified hating the last 15 years and fans have done more quantified, more justified analysis and has been routinely more positive in that same time, the question is simple ...
Who's been more right at the end of the day?
I don't care who is it or how it was done or when it was done. If you've been "hating" on the Knicks over the last couple of decades, you've mostly been correct.
That matters.
There is no way to really rate our off season until years down the road. As rating the off season doesnt just mean how we will perform this coming season. If 5 yrs down the road Frank is on an all-star team then that pick was a huge success. And nobody can claim they know how any pick will turn out 5 years from now.
Hardaway Jr signing isnt an F grade signing. Noah is an F grade signing. Given his injury history and age and declining performance compared to his contract. Hardaway Jr is more like a C with the potential for B.
Baker signing can be rated as an F. But that's still only a 2 year 9mil commitment at the end of the day and shouldnt destroy the overall grade.
What if Dotson becomes a contributor 3 yrs from now. Nabbing him in the 2nd round would hold more weight then signing Baker for a 2 yr 9mil deal in the grand scheme of things.
That's fair and legitimate. But the same standard was applied to all 30 teams. It's a stronger argument that the whole Pelton piece was just premature and shortsighted, than it was purposely targeting the Knicks.
Pelton may have put more weight on certain things or graded on a certain type of scale. Like Minny being able to get Butler for a bargain may be his grading scale for As. That Knicks or any team couldn't get an A unless they got something of high substance at a bargain price. Seems like he put to much weight on passing on Smith jr rather then evaluating if Frank would be a good prospect or not. Despite popular opinion it is possible that they BOTH become quality players in the NBA. One's career doesn't make or break the others. Hardaway Jr being overpaid doesn't mean that he will be dead weight.
Back to Frank. I think he is a prospect that the Knicks need given their history over the past years. Defense, team first, work ethic. Knicks need to lay low, plug in these type of guys, be all about basketball. Thats the way to build up the credibility.
With Phil out and Melo possibly on his way out KP will be viewed as that star with the target on his back as the media looks to get their drama from him. Hope he is prepared.
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8/2/2017 8:16 PM