knicks1248 wrote:

ramtour420 wrote:watching the milwakee game , like 5 am here, wow. Melo is passing amazingly and blocking !!!

where are you

i am in Moscow

dk7th wrote:

nixluva wrote:

franco12 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:He is playing team ball. Gallo looked first at Fish for a time out and then gave the ball to melo. Melo is the man so that was the right move. I also think Fish not calling a time out was the right move. If Melo takes the shot there is no way that a foul is called so I am glad that he passed it.

I'm totally ok with how the game ended, how the play ultimately unfolded.

But, I thought once Gallo brought the ball over, he should have been the one to actually initiate a play. I just thought giving it to Melo at that time gave him too little time to make a play.

Again, I think our team needs more time to learn how to attack in situations like that - some of that is on Fisher to create set plays and explain where on how our system should position them to attack.

The Knicks already know what to and they followed the Transition Rules of the Triangle Offense. This involves filling spots and if you look at the video you can see that they went to fill both corners, the Wing 3pt spot and the top of the key 3pt spot. Melo then penetrated and drew defenders. He could've passed back to KP, Gallo or to Jose in that scenario. Manu had to give help since Melo was driving to the hoop and Melo chose Jose, which was the easiest pass and shortest 3pt shot.

What they did made perfect sense. My issue is that if we had a guard that had breakdown ability that could have been used rather than passing to Melo in that short amount of time. Gallo is not that guard and neither is Jose. Jerian is that kind of guard but he's not ready for that kind of crunch time decision making.
If you had a dangerous PG they would take the ball and Melo would move to fill one of the 3pt spots or low post spot and that guard would be driving and looking to score or dish.

We have to use Melo in that role because he's the biggest threat we have to get a shot and thus draw defenders. This team becomes that much more potent the second we have a guard who is equally a threat to drive and score. Doesn't matter if it's a SG or PG.

since leonard was overplaying melo's right hand, the right play for melo was to wait for kp to set a pick so that melo could drive right and force the defenders to fight over a pick or make a switch. either way kp ends up with a mismatch and a shot to win the game if melo gets the ball to him instead. or melo could have used the pick by kp and gotten a good look at the basket as well.

as it is melo allows himself to be funneled into an overloaded side of the court where it is easier to defend.

problem with melo is he doesn't have the ability to think ahead of the defense like the truly great ones do. he is playing great basketball this season-- does anybody doubt my sincerity?-- but his bbiq and decision making in the last 4 minutes of games is still an achilles heel.

As it is, KP and AA were both covered, he found the only open man out of the double team and Jose missed the shot. If Jose makes the shot, does Melo still have any BBIQ at all in the last 4 minutes? And he does this against a team that's having a historically great defensive season. The shots that Melo made in the last 4 minutes to help cut the lead down to one, did they show any hint of BBIQ?

Your sincerity isn't the thing to be questioned. Your inane hate is.

jrodmc wrote:

dk7th wrote:

nixluva wrote:

franco12 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:He is playing team ball. Gallo looked first at Fish for a time out and then gave the ball to melo. Melo is the man so that was the right move. I also think Fish not calling a time out was the right move. If Melo takes the shot there is no way that a foul is called so I am glad that he passed it.

I'm totally ok with how the game ended, how the play ultimately unfolded.

But, I thought once Gallo brought the ball over, he should have been the one to actually initiate a play. I just thought giving it to Melo at that time gave him too little time to make a play.

Again, I think our team needs more time to learn how to attack in situations like that - some of that is on Fisher to create set plays and explain where on how our system should position them to attack.

The Knicks already know what to and they followed the Transition Rules of the Triangle Offense. This involves filling spots and if you look at the video you can see that they went to fill both corners, the Wing 3pt spot and the top of the key 3pt spot. Melo then penetrated and drew defenders. He could've passed back to KP, Gallo or to Jose in that scenario. Manu had to give help since Melo was driving to the hoop and Melo chose Jose, which was the easiest pass and shortest 3pt shot.

What they did made perfect sense. My issue is that if we had a guard that had breakdown ability that could have been used rather than passing to Melo in that short amount of time. Gallo is not that guard and neither is Jose. Jerian is that kind of guard but he's not ready for that kind of crunch time decision making.
If you had a dangerous PG they would take the ball and Melo would move to fill one of the 3pt spots or low post spot and that guard would be driving and looking to score or dish.

We have to use Melo in that role because he's the biggest threat we have to get a shot and thus draw defenders. This team becomes that much more potent the second we have a guard who is equally a threat to drive and score. Doesn't matter if it's a SG or PG.

since leonard was overplaying melo's right hand, the right play for melo was to wait for kp to set a pick so that melo could drive right and force the defenders to fight over a pick or make a switch. either way kp ends up with a mismatch and a shot to win the game if melo gets the ball to him instead. or melo could have used the pick by kp and gotten a good look at the basket as well.

as it is melo allows himself to be funneled into an overloaded side of the court where it is easier to defend.

problem with melo is he doesn't have the ability to think ahead of the defense like the truly great ones do. he is playing great basketball this season-- does anybody doubt my sincerity?-- but his bbiq and decision making in the last 4 minutes of games is still an achilles heel.

As it is, KP and AA were both covered, he found the only open man out of the double team and Jose missed the shot. If Jose makes the shot, does Melo still have any BBIQ at all in the last 4 minutes? And he does this against a team that's having a historically great defensive season. The shots that Melo made in the last 4 minutes to help cut the lead down to one, did they show any hint of BBIQ?

Your sincerity isn't the thing to be questioned. Your inane hate is.

wtf?

jrodmc wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:Melo has been amazing lately. I am concerned however about his ability to elevate. He still hasnt gotten his lift back. Less lift means that his frequent double clutching at the rim gets sent back often. Sometimes Melo gets a call, but the others are often clean blocks. I hope its temporary, if it isn't Melo is going to have take it to the rim without that move.

Very few times, Melo gets a call. Listening on historically anti-homer ESPN radio, you can count at least 5-6 non-calls per game on drives to the basket. If the refs ever start showing him even an inkling of what other league stars get, the double-clutching won't be necessary. Hopefully Phil is working some sort of Zen on the league office that end up in a directive filtering down to the refs.

Melo continues to be an energy vortex with spiraling arms of universe birthing.

The one thing I have noticed is that Hahn has very publicly noted the lack of calls on the postgame show (maybe pregame too? I usually fast forward thru that). Even Breen been bringing it up during the games on MSG. League on notice.

mreinman wrote:

martin wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:Melo has been amazing lately. I am concerned however about his ability to elevate. He still hasnt gotten his lift back. Less lift means that his frequent double clutching at the rim gets sent back often. Sometimes Melo gets a call, but the others are often clean blocks. I hope its temporary, if it isn't Melo is going to have take it to the rim without that move.

Very few times, Melo gets a call. Listening on historically anti-homer ESPN radio, you can count at least 5-6 non-calls per game on drives to the basket. If the refs ever start showing him even an inkling of what other league stars get, the double-clutching won't be necessary. Hopefully Phil is working some sort of Zen on the league office that end up in a directive filtering down to the refs.

Melo continues to be an energy vortex with spiraling arms of universe birthing.

The one thing I have noticed is that Hahn has very publicly noted the lack of calls on the postgame show (maybe pregame too? I usually fast forward thru that). Even Breen been bringing it up during the games on MSG. League on notice.

have you seen this?

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=53326

Interesting article. My observation was only about when he double clutches. All it does now without any elevation is give a defender more time to move in for the block.

mreinman wrote:

martin wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:Melo has been amazing lately. I am concerned however about his ability to elevate. He still hasnt gotten his lift back. Less lift means that his frequent double clutching at the rim gets sent back often. Sometimes Melo gets a call, but the others are often clean blocks. I hope its temporary, if it isn't Melo is going to have take it to the rim without that move.

Very few times, Melo gets a call. Listening on historically anti-homer ESPN radio, you can count at least 5-6 non-calls per game on drives to the basket. If the refs ever start showing him even an inkling of what other league stars get, the double-clutching won't be necessary. Hopefully Phil is working some sort of Zen on the league office that end up in a directive filtering down to the refs.

Melo continues to be an energy vortex with spiraling arms of universe birthing.

The one thing I have noticed is that Hahn has very publicly noted the lack of calls on the postgame show (maybe pregame too? I usually fast forward thru that). Even Breen been bringing it up during the games on MSG. League on notice.

have you seen this?

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=53326

Good article, although it seems she has an axe to grind at the outset.

Will be interesting to see if Melo moves up the "gets the calls" lists if the season continues to improve.

martin wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:Melo has been amazing lately. I am concerned however about his ability to elevate. He still hasnt gotten his lift back. Less lift means that his frequent double clutching at the rim gets sent back often. Sometimes Melo gets a call, but the others are often clean blocks. I hope its temporary, if it isn't Melo is going to have take it to the rim without that move.

Very few times, Melo gets a call. Listening on historically anti-homer ESPN radio, you can count at least 5-6 non-calls per game on drives to the basket. If the refs ever start showing him even an inkling of what other league stars get, the double-clutching won't be necessary. Hopefully Phil is working some sort of Zen on the league office that end up in a directive filtering down to the refs.

Melo continues to be an energy vortex with spiraling arms of universe birthing.

The one thing I have noticed is that Hahn has very publicly noted the lack of calls on the postgame show (maybe pregame too? I usually fast forward thru that). Even Breen been bringing it up during the games on MSG. League on notice.

I saw that. He cited some numbers I believe, and went over that play where he was fouled like 3 or 4 times trying to go to the basket.

It's been said for the past few years, but now it's just getting to be ridiculous.

Clean wrote:I am 100% happy with this new and improved Melo. I find myself amazed at multple of his passes a game now. This is exactly the way I wanted Melo to play during the Linsanity era. Either Melo has matured a lot since then or he just simply respects KP more than he did Lin.

The latter. He didn't respect Lin one iota.

Knicks1969 wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Clean wrote:I am 100% happy with this new and improved Melo. I find myself amazed at multple of his passes a game now. This is exactly the way I wanted Melo to play during the Linsanity era. Either Melo has matured a lot since then or he just simply respects KP more than he did Lin.

The latter. He didn't respect Lin one iota.

Lin and Carmelo could never really coexist, because Lin is a scoring guard. He requires to hold the ball which doesn't really jive with a volume ISO player like Carmelo. Back then the Knicks view Lin as a starting PG; which is a totally different role then he is playing now. I don't know if you've noticed, but Lin was also run out of town by Harden who is also an ISO player:)

And Kobe.

I wonder just how many players can run him out of town.