Posted by codeunknown:

Posted by nixluva:

Posted by codeunknown:

Posted by nixluva:


he's just a real street dude and from the hood, so he doesn't always speak using the Kings English.

This is bull**** and it unfairly characterizes "street dudes." Intelligent "street dudes" are coherent.

Marbury's thought process is, at best, circumstantial and tangential.

Code I never intended to group ALL guys who are from the street into one group, tho it could be taken that way. Certainly at least SOME guys that spent a good part of their lives on the street and not heavily engrossed in educational pursuits, have a similar style of expressing themselves and a similar problem in expressing themselves well. Not all, but many do.

Code, the way I write here is pretty much how I actually talk everyday. Somehow I get the sense that you don't go around using the word "tangential" when you talk to friends or colleagues at school or work. I don't know you, but I would hope that you realize it's not necessary to basically show off your vocabulary on this forum.

Now i'd like for you to explain how the words you chose should be applied to Steph's thought process? What's "circumstantial" or "tangential" about how Steph thinks or speaks? I don't even know how you could begin to know how Steph thinks, to be able to make a judgement about his thought process in the first place. Has he ever spoken to you personally and told you what his thought process is or are you so perceptive that you picked that up just from his interviews?


[Edited by - nixluva on 07-30-2007 01:26 AM]

I'm a cardiothoracic surgeon - you better believe thats how I talk to colleagues. And "tangential" is hardly an esoteric word, so I suggest you read a book. This vocabulary nonsense is your usual song and dance - I shouldn't have to dumb things down for you. If you make such an effort to understand Marbury's drivel, you might as well go the extra mile to consider what I'm saying.

Circumstantial and tangential are self-explanatory clinical terms used in psychiatry. He brings up irrelevant facts and fails to connect them in a unified response. Many times, he fails to even answer the question. Look at Marbury's interview again and compare it to what you would expect from a 9th grader. Don't make excuses and evaluate it objectively.

Posted by codeunknown:

Posted by nixluva:

Posted by codeunknown:

Posted by nixluva:


he's just a real street dude and from the hood, so he doesn't always speak using the Kings English.

This is bull**** and it unfairly characterizes "street dudes." Intelligent "street dudes" are coherent.

Marbury's thought process is, at best, circumstantial and tangential.

Code I never intended to group ALL guys who are from the street into one group, tho it could be taken that way. Certainly at least SOME guys that spent a good part of their lives on the street and not heavily engrossed in educational pursuits, have a similar style of expressing themselves and a similar problem in expressing themselves well. Not all, but many do.

Code, the way I write here is pretty much how I actually talk everyday. Somehow I get the sense that you don't go around using the word "tangential" when you talk to friends or colleagues at school or work. I don't know you, but I would hope that you realize it's not necessary to basically show off your vocabulary on this forum.

Now i'd like for you to explain how the words you chose should be applied to Steph's thought process? What's "circumstantial" or "tangential" about how Steph thinks or speaks? I don't even know how you could begin to know how Steph thinks, to be able to make a judgement about his thought process in the first place. Has he ever spoken to you personally and told you what his thought process is or are you so perceptive that you picked that up just from his interviews?

I'm a cardiothoracic surgeon - you better believe thats how I talk to colleagues. And "tangential" is hardly an esoteric word, so I suggest you read a book. This vocabulary nonsense is your usual song and dance - I shouldn't have to dumb things down for you. If you make such an effort to understand Marbury's drivel, you might as well go the extra mile to consider what I'm saying.

Circumstantial and tangential are self-explanatory clinical terms used in psychiatry. He brings up irrelevant facts and fails to connect them in a unified response. Many times, he fails to even answer the question. Look at Marbury's interview again and compare it to what you would expect from a 9th grader. Don't make excuses and evaluate it objectively.

Posted by nixluva:

Posted by codeunknown:

Posted by nixluva:

Posted by codeunknown:

Posted by nixluva:


he's just a real street dude and from the hood, so he doesn't always speak using the Kings English.

This is bull**** and it unfairly characterizes "street dudes." Intelligent "street dudes" are coherent.

Marbury's thought process is, at best, circumstantial and tangential.

Code I never intended to group ALL guys who are from the street into one group, tho it could be taken that way. Certainly at least SOME guys that spent a good part of their lives on the street and not heavily engrossed in educational pursuits, have a similar style of expressing themselves and a similar problem in expressing themselves well. Not all, but many do.

Code, the way I write here is pretty much how I actually talk everyday. Somehow I get the sense that you don't go around using the word "tangential" when you talk to friends or colleagues at school or work. I don't know you, but I would hope that you realize it's not necessary to basically show off your vocabulary on this forum.

Now i'd like for you to explain how the words you chose should be applied to Steph's thought process? What's "circumstantial" or "tangential" about how Steph thinks or speaks? I don't even know how you could begin to know how Steph thinks, to be able to make a judgement about his thought process in the first place. Has he ever spoken to you personally and told you what his thought process is or are you so perceptive that you picked that up just from his interviews?

I'm a cardiothoracic surgeon - you better believe thats how I talk to colleagues. And "tangential" is hardly an esoteric word, so I suggest you read a book. This vocabulary nonsense is your usual song and dance - I shouldn't have to dumb things down for you. If you make such an effort to understand Marbury's drivel, you might as well go the extra mile to consider what I'm saying.

Circumstantial and tangential are self-explanatory clinical terms used in psychiatry. He brings up irrelevant facts and fails to connect them in a unified response. Many times, he fails to even answer the question. Look at Marbury's interview again and compare it to what you would expect from a 9th grader. Don't make excuses and evaluate it objectively.

Yeah you confirmed it for me. You're a jerk! If you are indeed an educated person, then you should know that there are appropriate times to use common speech and times where it's appropriate to use a more technical or high level of vocabulary. This isn't your place of work and I find it hard to believe that you think using terms that as you put it are "self-explanatory clinical terms used in psychiatry", are appropriate for a BB forum.

Perhaps you're now too far removed from the average joe to bother to understand what he's trying to say. I find it insulting that you think your station in life gives you the right to bash someone for not being as eloquent as you want them to be. At the end of the day you're just a human being and you have to take a crap everyday like anyone else.

"Pride is before a crash and a haughty spirit before a stumbling" Proverbs 16:18

Posted by islesfan:

nixluva, what do you expect with your constant indefensible defending of anything Knick related? It's one thing to be a fan and another to be a complete sycophant ($10).

Posted by BRIGGS:

Posted by TrueBlue:

Posted by BRIGGS:

where is a copy of the tape with marbury and bruce beck?

Are you asking for a link to that video?

Please

Posted by islesfan:

nixluva, what do you expect with your constant indefensible defending of anything Knick related? It's one thing to be a fan and another to be a complete sycophant ($10).

Posted by Solace:

Posted by nixluva:

he doesn't always speak using the Kings English.

Neither do we. The King's English is British English, which is not exactly entirely in America. Nontheless, what you're really trying to make excuses for is him not being 100% literate. Yet, literacy is often used as one measure of intelligence for people who have had the opportunity to go to school, which Marbury did. So, ultimately, it comes back to Marbury having low intelligence at some basic levels, since we can confirm he's not entirely literate. He has the potential to be more intelligent, which I think is what you really mean to say, but he has not exercised that potential, so ultimately, all criticism he gets for his speaking is justified. This is the main reason he shouldn't speak, or should make the effort to improve.

[Edited by - Solace on Jul 29 2007 10:20 PM]

Posted by BasketballJones:

I enjoy making fun of Marbury as much as the next UK hater (if not more) but I don't think he's all that stupid. I'm not saying he's particularly smart, but I don't think he's as stupid as he appears to be.

I think Marbury is stubborn, which makes him resistant to learning, and like many wealthy and famous people, he has a particular reality which his support structure validates that is hard for many of us to relate to.


[Edited by - basketballjones on 07-30-2007 17:20]

He's not very articulate, but he seems to be in control of his life both on and off the court.