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Larry Brown was wrong about Nate Robinson!
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colorfl1
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1/27/2008  3:06 AM
Posted by colorfl1:

over the last 9 games we have witnessed the evolution of Nate Robinson's game...
He is no longer a slick street-ball player, a "human highlight reel" that has no business running the point on an NBA team. He has been making the players around him better and he is laying it out on defense. He has clearly matured and grown as a player, having brought his energy game under control, making sound decisions and bursting out his athleticism at opportune moments.

I am certainly happy that Zeke did not give up on this kid.



[Edited by - colorfl1 on 01-27-2008 03:15 AM]
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1/27/2008  12:39 PM
You see - he was fired for a reason.
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1/27/2008  2:01 PM
Larry was wrong about a lot of things. He should've just shut up and done his job and allowed things to develop, but he's older and less patient now. Years ago he may have been more willing to take the effort to develop all the young players we have, but he's no longer that man anymore.

When you go from coaching the Pistons with all those vets who know how to play and what to do and actually listen to the coach, it's hard to go to a team with so many hard to coach guys and a lot of young players. Especially a guy like Nate who was so immature.

I'm very happy with Nate's development and I want to see other players on this team get a chance to play. We all saw that Nate seemed to have improved from summer League on, but for whatever reason Isiah didn't really use him as much as you would think given how he was performing in practice and in games.
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1/27/2008  3:53 PM
I can't remember what LB said about Nate. Doesn't seem like he was super down on him though...

http://gr8life.msnbc.com/2006/04/reason_for_opti.html
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colorfl1
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1/27/2008  8:19 PM
Posted by Andrew:

I can't remember what LB said about Nate. Doesn't seem like he was super down on him though...

http://gr8life.msnbc.com/2006/04/reason_for_opti.html

Robinson said of Brown: “It was like he was trying to take my joy: ‘Don’t do this. Don’t do that.’ ”
http://http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/11/sports/basketball/11knicks.html?partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

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1/27/2008  8:42 PM
Nate Robinson cannot start in the NBA, becuase the knicks lack a true pg, nate shines as a combo guard, but has too many mental lapses.
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1/27/2008  8:49 PM
Posted by playa2:

Nate Robinson cannot start in the NBA, becuase the knicks lack a true pg, nate shines as a combo guard, but has too many mental lapses.

Agreed.

This is the problem with this board. A guy has a few good games, and suddenly he's better than Kobe or Tim Duncan.
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1/27/2008  9:46 PM
yeah cuz that's clearly what colorfl1 was implying.
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1/27/2008  10:41 PM
The use of overstatement to critcize other overstatements isn't really very effective.
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1/27/2008  11:39 PM
Everyone can see that Nate has come of age and is a serious NBA player, so Brown who wanted to get rid of guys like Nate from what I remember was wrong. I think LB's problem was a lack of patience and he was power hungry. Nate was just a kid and an immature one at that. You have to take a stance with him to get thru to him, so LB was right about that, but you can't just give up on a kid like him.
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1/27/2008  11:44 PM
Larry thought he was immature.

He was right.

Nate is maturing this year. Larry was right. He needed to mature.

Question is would larry have kept him or developed him?

Isiah has benched him also to make his points.

Nate is maturing and playing BETTER. That makes Larry wrong??

Not everything is frozen. Seems some believe if Layden was here so would that team.
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1/28/2008  12:57 AM
Brown was very prescient. He knew that Nate had to be pushed to mature and develop. He knew that by begging for Francis, he could eventually package him with Frye to get Zach Randolph. He knew Tim Thomas was a better fit than Keith Van Horn, and he brought us Jerome James as well.
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1/28/2008  1:38 AM
Posted by Solace:
Posted by playa2:

Nate Robinson cannot start in the NBA, becuase the knicks lack a true pg, nate shines as a combo guard, but has too many mental lapses.

Agreed.

This is the problem with this board. A guy has a few good games, and suddenly he's better than Kobe or Tim Duncan.

Name me one person who said that he's better than Tim Duncan and Kobe. Not even 5 of the biggest lovers on earth combined would say that.
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1/28/2008  1:42 AM
i stopped reading after '9 games'
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1/28/2008  7:28 AM
Nate has potential. LB was right to say the things that he said. Showing off when your down 20 point at home, not playing pressure D when your coach is yelling at you to pressure the ball, making stupid showboat plays in close games... these are all good reasons to sit your ass down on the bench until you learn that the only thing in the NBA that counts is winning games.

So far Larry has something in common with Isiah, Lenny, Herb and Chaney. They all did a bad job with Isiah's players. Weird
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1/28/2008  10:00 AM

Was Larry wrong or the absence of Marbury have an effect?

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1/28/2008  11:29 AM
Posted by Allanfan20:
Posted by Solace:
Posted by playa2:

Nate Robinson cannot start in the NBA, becuase the knicks lack a true pg, nate shines as a combo guard, but has too many mental lapses.

Agreed.

This is the problem with this board. A guy has a few good games, and suddenly he's better than Kobe or Tim Duncan.

Name me one person who said that he's better than Tim Duncan and Kobe. Not even 5 of the biggest lovers on earth combined would say that.

Wow people here are dense and can't understand an exaggeration. My point still stands. You guys are very inconsistent.

Btw, this is the same reason I usually win fantasy leagues, when I've played in the past. Usually, at least for the first half of the season, all I have to do is wait for some guy to have a sick streak for a few weeks or some guy to slump real bad for a few weeks. Guys will pay double their value to get the streaky player or get half their value in return to get rid of the slumping player.

[Edited by - Solace on Jan 28 2008 11:35 AM]
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1/28/2008  11:36 AM
Nate will be great in any up-tempo game with opponents with weak defense on PG position and no shot blocking center.
With big mobile defender on him and big guy to help and block him out he is not too much of a thread.
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1/28/2008  11:47 PM
Posted by Solace:
Posted by Allanfan20:
Posted by Solace:
Posted by playa2:

Nate Robinson cannot start in the NBA, becuase the knicks lack a true pg, nate shines as a combo guard, but has too many mental lapses.

Agreed.

This is the problem with this board. A guy has a few good games, and suddenly he's better than Kobe or Tim Duncan.

Name me one person who said that he's better than Tim Duncan and Kobe. Not even 5 of the biggest lovers on earth combined would say that.

Wow people here are dense and can't understand an exaggeration. My point still stands. You guys are very inconsistent.

not sure what's wrong w/changing one's tune about Nate if you notice a real improvement in his game... he's now doing what people have been harping on to see him start doing since he got here... he's actually playing smarter, making better decisions w/the basketball, & being an energizer off the bench in games... he's still got a ways to go before he grows into some star calibre player but it's encouraging at least to see him getting better... it's just a matter of acknowledging the obvious... not sure how anyone could have watched the guy play of late & not admit that he's shown some signs of finally getting it in terms of how he needs to play to have a positive impact on this team... the exaggeration on your part was obvious to everyone i'm sure.
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1/29/2008  12:13 AM
Very few people have said that Nate is the next coming of a big thing for us. We've just been saying he's playing well and want to see him continue. Same with Jamal.

With that said, he Nate keeps this amazing play up, he'll probably become a better player than Oscar Robertson.
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Larry Brown was wrong about Nate Robinson!

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