I find it very odd that Frye's agent declined workouts for teams picking 5-7... but if you think about it, all of these teams have established power forwards.

The Bobcats have Okafor and some average bigmen in Brezec and Ely. Utah has Boozer at PF and Okur at center. Toronto has Bosh at PF.

The Knicks are super-deep in the position, but with KT on his way out (and technically, playing center if he stays) Frye has a shot to be the best of the bunch. It'd be a tough road on the Knicks, with layers of crafty veterans in his path, hungry for playing time.

From Dime magazine, 4 days ago:
8. KNICKS — Channing Frye, 7—0 C Arizona
It's killing us that Chris Taft's stock is dropping faster than a lead balloon. And now it's looking more and more like this pick will be Channing Frye. He's denying that he had a "secret" workout with the Knicks in San Diego last week, but it was reported by multiple sources.

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The latest CNNSI draft orders, RealGM, etc are really all over the place. All reports seem to indicate that regardless of what folks here think, Frye is a better prospect than Villanueva (no eyebrows) or Taft (not the brightest/most motivated star in the sky). There are lots of interesting tidbits flying around with Paul dropping, Deron flying up, and Felton squeezing into the top-10.. Sometimes Granger is in the top-5, other times he's top-20, same goes with Webster. Green is sometimes as high as 3rd, as low as 8th.

It remains to be seen what the Knicks would do if one of the high profile/upside players is available at #8. Promise or not, I don't think Isiah Thomas would pass them up to get Frye.

Posted by crzymdups:

Fine by me. Frye will fit with this team's up tempo playing style. He'll replace Kurt on the pick and roll, which, like it or not was the only go to play this team had last year. Frye is a great pick.

Were going to find out the differnce in terms of what a C is and a tweener. We already know it with KT, and we will continue to know it with Frye.

Frye has two inches on Kurt, has longer arms and can do something which Kurt hasn't been able to do for years because of his ankles: JUMP.

They're different players.

Kurt wasn't a tweener, he was a PF on a team with no center. Frye can play center against most guys in this league. I can think of like three centers he'll struggle against.

Also, even if the Knicks take Frye that doesn't mean they won't try to sign Jerome James, Stephen Hunter, Reggie Evans, Chris Andersen, Dan Gadzuric, Kwame, Eddy or Zydrunas to the MLE. Any one of those guys would be a help. And would be an upgrade over Kurt at center.

Posted by diderotn:

All your questions will be answere around 7:40 pm on Tuesday....Stay tune

what happens then?

Posted by crzymdups:

Posted by diderotn:

All your questions will be answere around 7:40 pm on Tuesday....Stay tune

what happens then?

Telecast on ESPN starts at 7.30.

Don't they do a pre-draft for at least 30 minutes to whip us FURTHER into a frenzy?

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Posted by crzymdups:

Frye has two inches on Kurt, has longer arms and can do something which Kurt hasn't been able to do for years because of his ankles: JUMP.

They're different players.

Kurt wasn't a tweener, he was a PF on a team with no center. Frye can play center against most guys in this league. I can think of like three centers he'll struggle against.

Also, even if the Knicks take Frye that doesn't mean they won't try to sign Jerome James, Stephen Hunter, Reggie Evans, Chris Andersen, Dan Gadzuric, Kwame, Eddy or Zydrunas to the MLE. Any one of those guys would be a help. And would be an upgrade over Kurt at center.

One image you have of Frye which is wrong--yes hes a better athlete than thomas, everyone is in the nbA, but he is not in the class athletically of guys like Okafor Ben Wallace Dwight Howard etc.. and he doesnt have the size to match many real C. Even a guy like Al Jefferson , he doesnt match up physically. I mean think about it, they did everything they could to jack him up before the draft--and he weighed in at 243. Al Jefferson weighs 265 on mcdonalds and no weightlifting and hes 3 years younger.

Posted by diderotn:

Look, having Frye is not a bad move. We have guys like Sweetney to compensate for whatever Frye is not able to provide, I.E. guarding bigger guys. Sweet is perhaps 270 lbs, we can use his weight to push people around with Frye coming over the top to block shots...

Thats the problem. When you pick a big man at 8 you should not have to worry about having to compensate with other players on your roster for what he can't do. This is why I don't want Channing Frye, he's not good enough to be picked with the 8th pick! I don't mind Channing, I woulnd't mind if the Knicks had the 15th pick and took him, then it's worth it but at the 8th pick in the draft you need to the players that have the best chance of being superstars in this league, no ifs ands or buts and Channing does not fit that description, he's going to be a pretty good player in the NBA but never any better then that, he MIGHT make a all-star team one year if everything goes his way but your not going to get much more from him then that.

If Channing Frye is going to be the 8th pick in the draft, he better play like someone picked in the top8 of the draft and not someone who is picked in the mid to late first round which is what I absolute fear the most becuase I've seen the kid play in college numerous times. Atleast with Bynum you are getting a kid who isn't going to be pushed around on defense and on offense will be able to overpower people once he gets a feel for the NBA game.

[Edited by - nyk4ever on 06/26/2005 14:03:17]

I think when you have a lottery pick, you really need to work on the best available player--- if you have a hunch a guy could be a superstar, go with it. If you have a choice between several players who you think'll pan out in the NBA, then you go with your need.

If the Knicks are SOO confident with Frye's potential in the NBA, let's see what he can do, then we'll whine about how IT blew it. :)

One thing is for certain--- he doesn't look like he's got the type of body that could bang with Shaq. Fine. That's what we have Malik Rose for. For all other purposes, I think Frye could be a capable center in this league.