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6/24/2005  8:46 PM
Bynum and Blatche came to Portland for workouts and also had a 1 on 1 against each other. Blatche scored two quick points off mid-range jump shots. Bynum then played up and contested the next shot which ended up being blocked by Bynum. Bynum then endlessly posted up Blatche the next 4 points. What suprised Blatche on the next point was Bynum then took it to the whole right over Blatche's face without knocking him down. Blatche then changed some strategy and thought it would be better if he moved farther away from Bynum- because Bynum has shown nothing from the perimeter. Bynum, realizing this dribbles in a foot closer and Swishs the next shot. On the next attempt Bynum becomes more creative and gives himself a self pass off the backboard and finishs with an acrobatic dunk. Next, Bynum posts up again and instead of the usuall shot off the backboard he swished a hook shot. Blatche finally got the ball back off a Bynum miss and swished a long range 3. Blatche then misses a fadeaway and never got the ball back.

Blatche and Bynum both had impressive workouts. Amir showed great speed for a four but he was physically weaker against Blatche and Bynum
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6/24/2005  8:54 PM
Hmmm the way you make it sound, Bynum should be going 1st in the draft all around!
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6/24/2005  8:58 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:

Blatche and Bynum both had impressive workouts. Amir showed great speed for a four but he was physically weaker against Blatche and Bynum

What you describe isn't really an impressive workout by Blatche!

How do you know all that, Briggs? Thats a very detailed description of a workout...
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6/24/2005  9:01 PM
Once again no link, but Im going to take your word on this. If Frye gets drafted before the #8 pick, Bynum will be a knick
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6/24/2005  9:17 PM
Posted by Cookdcokehop:

Once again no link, but Im going to take your word on this. If Frye gets drafted before the #8 pick, Bynum will be a knick

Nah man, the way Briggs is describing this kid he will be a Buck
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6/24/2005  9:22 PM
Posted by Knicksfan:
Posted by BRIGGS:

Blatche and Bynum both had impressive workouts. Amir showed great speed for a four but he was physically weaker against Blatche and Bynum

What you describe isn't really an impressive workout by Blatche!

How do you know all that, Briggs? Thats a very detailed description of a workout...

Im not describing it, this is a cut and paste from someone who watched the workout in Portland.

The sorry thing is, why didnt we , from the beginning get Bynum and Frye in a workout? I just dont see how Frye could stop Bynum. Bynum is way more athletic and skilled then people are giving him credit for, yet its almost unkown. tell me how the 6-10 243 pound Frye is going to stop a 7-1 275 skill player with more athletic ability and much longer arms in the post? The killer for Bynum was his condition at MCD--thats a lasting impression. Even reading the dialogue from the scouts who attended the 4, really no one has a clue about Andrew, other than the frikin Blazers. This is sad, it really is just to bad.
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6/24/2005  9:26 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by Knicksfan:
Posted by BRIGGS:

Blatche and Bynum both had impressive workouts. Amir showed great speed for a four but he was physically weaker against Blatche and Bynum

What you describe isn't really an impressive workout by Blatche!

How do you know all that, Briggs? Thats a very detailed description of a workout...

Im not describing it, this is a cut and paste from someone who watched the workout in Portland.

The sorry thing is, why didnt we , from the beginning get Bynum and Frye in a workout? I just dont see how Frye could stop Bynum. Bynum is way more athletic and skilled then people are giving him credit for, yet its almost unkown. tell me how the 6-10 243 pound Frye is going to stop a 7-1 275 skill player with more athletic ability and much longer arms in the post? The killer for Bynum was his condition at MCD--thats a lasting impression. Even reading the dialogue from the scouts who attended the 4, really no one has a clue about Andrew, other than the frikin Blazers. This is sad, it really is just to bad.

so of the 29 remaining clubs you're saying that of all the people whp scout for a living, the only ones that are hip to him is you (Briggs) and Portland? If this is true, you're in the wrong business guy.
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6/24/2005  9:37 PM
How could Frye stop Bynum???? Are you kidding me? Size is nice, really nice....but there's no way in the world Bynum has half the fundamentals & technique that Frye has. I am not endorsng Frye....but you are getting a little silly with these Bynum threads.

Example: Kurt Thomas is 4 inches shorter & 40 lbs lighter than Kwame Brown. Brown is athletic. Yet in the post, KT eats Brown alive.

Bynum may or may not be good 3 years from now. I can't imagine him offering anything but 6 fouls this upcoming season.
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6/24/2005  9:43 PM
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Example: Kurt Thomas is 4 inches shorter & 40 lbs lighter than Kwame Brown. Brown is athletic. Yet in the post, KT eats Brown alive.

Bynum may or may not be good 3 years from now. I can't imagine him offering anything but 6 fouls this upcoming season.

What dream was that in. Kwame had his best damn game of the year against the KNicks and KT was guarding him.
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6/24/2005  9:45 PM
Briggs, Im really amazed at how high you are on Bynum and how great do you see him becoming. Considering how good you are at evaluating talent, I have to give you an edge on the Bynum stuff. But its just too strange that most teams aren't really that high on him, even though he is a well sized C. You HAVE TO ADMITT that if Bynum isn't picked by the Raptors, Knicks, etc. its mostly because of him. How do you expect a player that has no lottery guarantee to cancel workouts on many lottery teams. Look, he isn't the only player on this draft, so you can't really blame Isiah for not making him a priority in day one. He wasn't expected to go first round back then. And considering how badly things have been managed for him, I wonder how will all this affect his developement in the league.

One thing, Bynum hasn't been rumored for the first lottery picks, at least not as Frye. If Portland is taking a look at him is because they are serious about trading with LA and getting both Butler and a C prospect like Bynum because they, as many, assume that Frye won't be there at 10. Many think that if he escapes NY somehow, he won't go past Golden State.

[Edited by - KnicksFan on 06/24/2005 21:49:43]
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6/24/2005  9:49 PM
Posted by Vmart:
Posted by purple012870:


Example: Kurt Thomas is 4 inches shorter & 40 lbs lighter than Kwame Brown. Brown is athletic. Yet in the post, KT eats Brown alive.

Bynum may or may not be good 3 years from now. I can't imagine him offering anything but 6 fouls this upcoming season.

What dream was that in. Kwame had his best damn game of the year against the KNicks and KT was guarding him.

19 pts in a loosing effort in April when the Knicks were basically out of it? And that that was his signature game of the year says something.
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6/24/2005  10:11 PM
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Briggs, Im really amazed at how high you are on Bynum and how great do you see him becoming. Considering how good you are at evaluating talent, I have to give you an edge on the Bynum stuff. But its just too strange that most teams aren't really that high on him, even though he is a well sized C. You HAVE TO ADMITT that if Bynum isn't picked by the Raptors, Knicks, etc. its mostly because of him. How do you expect a player that has no lottery guarantee to cancel workouts on many lottery teams. Look, he isn't the only player on this draft, so you can't really blame Isiah for not making him a priority in day one. He wasn't expected to go first round back then. And considering how badly things have been managed for him, I wonder how will all this affect his developement in the league.

One thing, Bynum hasn't been rumored for the first lottery picks, at least not as Frye. If Portland is taking a look at him is because they are serious about trading with LA and getting both Butler and a C prospect like Bynum because they, as many, assume that Frye won't be there at 10. Many think that if he escapes NY somehow, he won't go past Golden State.

[Edited by - KnicksFan on 06/24/2005 21:49:43]

Listen, I think isiah Thomas should've taken the time to come over to that June 4th workout, it was what 8 minutes from the Garden? I mean we do need a F C right? I know the brother of Bynum is a real big arsehole, but his job was to help secure his brother a position in the draft and obviously they are content with what ever happened. Im sure NY had every opportunity to get Bynum in faster than any other team, yet they failed--why--because they were set with Frye. My problem is WE shouldve been the first one's to go through private workouts and WE shouldve had Frye go against a Bynum and a few other guys. tell me does Channing frye desevre a carte blanche to pick 8????--he had troubles against smaller College basketball players, so, let him go work out against a monster. If he is so much fundamentally better, well then OK, but I sincerely doubt that Channing could handle Bynum in the block very easily. Bynum is NOT a big dumb blob, I think thats the pereception, but its far from the reality. What is the number 1 thing you heard of in basketball--you cant teach size, and size comes with skills you better do as much due dilligence as you can--we dropped the ball again.

Listen, lets go back in time--where were all these teams on amare stoudemire? You hear in one workout that Doc Rivers said he was slacking for orlando, that he was a problem, he was raw, and he went from pick 20 something up to pick 9, yet where were the frikin 8 clubs above him--they were going with the fundamental sure bets right!
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6/24/2005  10:20 PM
This is one time the Kicks need not be conservative. They need to get this kid in for a workout ASAP and have him and Frye and Petro go head to head. The Knicks need not pass on Bynum he is going to be someone in the the NBA at the very least he will be a Kevin Duckworth at the very best he will be an elite center. But he will be servicable there is no doubt about it.
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6/24/2005  10:27 PM
Posted by Vmart:

This is one time the Kicks need not be conservative. They need to get this kid in for a workout ASAP and have him and Frye and Petro go head to head. The Knicks need not pass on Bynum he is going to be someone in the the NBA at the very least he will be a Kevin Duckworth at the very best he will be an elite center. But he will be servicable there is no doubt about it.

good luck, his brother told NJ, Tor and Ny no workout, to late. Obviously there is something in place with Portland. A lot of these guys have done that. I mean Frye worked out for NO one. Its to late, Knick minds were made up a LONg time ago, and if Frye, for some unknown reason gets picked before 8[which he wont] then the knicks sit with their hands in their pants. you know who the back up plans might be? guys like Villenueva or even Vazquez. UGGH on both!
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6/24/2005  10:28 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:
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This is one time the Kicks need not be conservative. They need to get this kid in for a workout ASAP and have him and Frye and Petro go head to head. The Knicks need not pass on Bynum he is going to be someone in the the NBA at the very least he will be a Kevin Duckworth at the very best he will be an elite center. But he will be servicable there is no doubt about it.

good luck, his brother told NJ, Tor and Ny no workout, to late. Obviously there is something in place with Portland. A lot of these guys have done that. I mean Frye worked out for NO one. Its to late, Knick minds were made up a LONg time ago, and if Frye, for some unknown reason gets picked before 8[which he wont] then the knicks sit with their hands in their pants. you know who the back up plans might be? guys like Villenueva or even Vazquez. UGGH on both!


Actually we can pray to God that if Frye is gone and someone like Webster or Granger is on the board, that we take them atleast.

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6/24/2005  10:29 PM
Briggs, that's a very impressive report. My problem with Bynum is: why cancel a workout with the Knicks? Because they told him he would be working out against college guys? Because they told him he was only being considered as an option for 30, not 8? We'll never know. They did TRY to bring him in for a workout and he cancelled - how can you stake a career drafting someone who blows you off? I highly doubt he has a guarantee above 8, so it makes NO sense to cancel a workout with the Knicks. Also, you think Frye is skinny? Blatche is a toothpick. I keep hearing Bynum worked out with Eric Williams behind closed doors, but when it's come to actual workouts, he's worked with Petro and Blatche - two guys who define RAW. I'm not saying he doesn't have upside, but he also has serious question marks and if he refuses to at least meet with the Knicks there's no way I would touch this kid. He and his brother can go to Portland.
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6/24/2005  10:31 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by Vmart:

This is one time the Kicks need not be conservative. They need to get this kid in for a workout ASAP and have him and Frye and Petro go head to head. The Knicks need not pass on Bynum he is going to be someone in the the NBA at the very least he will be a Kevin Duckworth at the very best he will be an elite center. But he will be servicable there is no doubt about it.

good luck, his brother told NJ, Tor and Ny no workout, to late. Obviously there is something in place with Portland. A lot of these guys have done that. I mean Frye worked out for NO one. Its to late, Knick minds were made up a LONg time ago, and if Frye, for some unknown reason gets picked before 8[which he wont] then the knicks sit with their hands in their pants. you know who the back up plans might be? guys like Villenueva or even Vazquez. UGGH on both!


Actually we can pray to God that if Frye is gone and someone like Webster or Granger is on the board, that we take them atleast.

Why not throw Graham in there? You are so high on him. I prefer Granger but I don't know Graham played against better competition and for a better program so I'd be happy with either guy.

Webster is not what we need. We need a 2-way player not someone who just jumpshoots and plays no D, especially now that we have Q!
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6/24/2005  11:40 PM
Briggs, nor disrespect, but if you're cutting and pasting this, why not give credit to whoever this report was done by. That way we can know what this source's credibility and motives are, and the source gets the credit due to him.
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6/25/2005  1:13 AM
Posted by VDesai:

Briggs, nor disrespect, but if you're cutting and pasting this, why not give credit to whoever this report was done by. That way we can know what this source's credibility and motives are, and the source gets the credit due to him.

I was thinking the same thing
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6/25/2005  11:45 AM
Posted by VDesai:

Briggs, nor disrespect, but if you're cutting and pasting this, why not give credit to whoever this report was done by. That way we can know what this source's credibility and motives are, and the source gets the credit due to him.

Just wondering....

Have we ever seen any links from BRIGGS that give any kind of indication that any of these workouts have ever happened? Always seems to be "Yea...he dominated Petro, and obviously would've dominated Frye"....but nothing backing up these claims...
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