In the Toronto paper, there is a couple of paragraphs implying that the Raptors will hold Frye over the Knicks head to dump a contract off.

I saw some of that today... good I hope they do and screw themselves. Thats Babc*ck... now Granger, Green or someone better is on the board.

I would stick with Danny but it would be nice to have this kind of leverage

one other thing.. what contract can they dump on us? In case they didnt look we only have bad contract to give back (PLEASE dont say Jalen Rose)

maybe this is why so much info was leaked about Zeke taking Frye. Toronto took the bait.

[Edited by - jaydh on 06/24/2005 15:41:18]

I hope they take the bait.

you know, if the Knicks could trade Penny and 8 for Jalen and 7, I would do that. To me, Jalen is a good fit anyway and insuring we get Frye would be nice.

Posted by crzymdups:

you know, if the Knicks could trade Penny and 8 for Jalen and 7, I would do that. To me, Jalen is a good fit anyway and insuring we get Frye would be nice.

now you have lost your mind. Frye over who at 7? MAn... you really like him so much that you would take back Rose? Especially now that we are getting Q?

Im glad your that high on him

Posted by fishmike:

Posted by crzymdups:

you know, if the Knicks could trade Penny and 8 for Jalen and 7, I would do that. To me, Jalen is a good fit anyway and insuring we get Frye would be nice.

now you have lost your mind. Frye over who at 7? MAn... you really like him so much that you would take back Rose? Especially now that we are getting Q?

Im glad your that high on him

Well, the Q thing isn't official yet. Ask me when it's official.

As for Rose, yes I think he would be a good fit. But with Rose and Q, it would be imperative to move Tim Thomas.

Also, there are MANY reports on the web saying that Toronto is in love with Granger and will take HIM at seven. With Utah liking taking Felton if it can't trade up, Granger will probably be there for Toronto. I don't think this leverage trade thing will happen with Toronto unless someone picks Granger VERY high.

Right now, it's looking like

1) Bogut
2) Marvin
3) Green (to LAL)
4) Deron
5) Chris Paul
6) Felton
7) Granger
8) Frye

I don't see Frye going higher than us. I'm sure the Raptors would love us to take Rose off their hands, but I don't see a reason to do it unless the Knicks want Rose. I happen to like Rose, but if the Q thing is official, I agree it's overkill and would take too many minutes from Ariza.

One question to all you fellas suggesting Granger or Graham. Do those guys make ANY SENSE now that Tim Thomas is our tallest player? How stacked are the SG/SF positions going to get before we draft a PF/C? Come on. It's time to think about a team.

Frye and Q make a lot of sense with Ariza, Craw and Marbury and even Tim Thomas, Malik Rose and JYD and Sweets.

Posted by djsunyc:

the BEST thing that can happen is for someone to take frye before us. that will force us to take somebody that will probably be a better player (granger, graham, bynum) and with the void in the middle, it would be bynum.

Bynum is only working out for Portland right now. He refused to work out for the Knicks. Why draft a player who doesn't want to be here? So you can be forced to trade him?

Posted by crzymdups:

Posted by fishmike:

[quote]Posted by crzymdups:

you know, if the Knicks could trade Penny and 8 for Jalen and 7, I would do that. To me, Jalen is a good fit anyway and insuring we get Frye would be nice.

now you have lost your mind. Frye over who at 7? MAn... you really like him so much that you would take back Rose? Especially now that we are getting Q?

Im glad your that high on him

Well, the Q thing isn't official yet. Ask me when it's official.

As for Rose, yes I think he would be a good fit. But with Rose and Q, it would be imperative to move Tim Thomas.

Also, there are MANY reports on the web saying that Toronto is in love with Granger and will take HIM at seven. With Utah liking taking Felton if it can't trade up, Granger will probably be there for Toronto. I don't think this leverage trade thing will happen with Toronto unless someone picks Granger VERY high.

Right now, it's looking like

1) Bogut
2) Marvin
3) Green (to LAL)
4) Deron
5) Chris Paul
6) Felton
7) Granger
8) Frye

There are variables there. Number 1, Felton is not a lock to go top 10 and I think Portland is out of love with Green and doesnt want a F or PG. For instance if you take Felton out, move Granger to 5 and Paul to 6-where does Toronto go? They dont want Felton, that much I have figured out. They seem to be high on Green Granger and Graham, but they also have pick 16. If Granger fell to them, then its a done deal, but if Felton is on the board and the big 6 are off----toronto has some play there. Now do I think this Raptor GM is a dufus? Yes and I doubt that I see him holding isiah hostage.