I dont think Kurt Thomas is a great player, but he does provide all, and i mean ALL, of our front court production. Unless Sweetney turns into something much more than he already is we will have no hope. Rarely will a NO. 8 pick get you immediate production as a starter. IT better have some plan unfolding here, because right now the team is just a bunch of guards with no front court whatsoever. So far this looks like a step back. Q is a fun player to watch, but he is a defensive liability and shoots an awful percentage from the field. SOUND LIKE ANYONE???? CRAWFORD. We need immediate help in the front court and I dont think this year's draft will be able to address that problem. Looks like an even more ****ty coming season. AND WHAT ABOUT ARIZA???! Thats over now for sure with Q coming in.

Yeah the plan was to get Kurt out. Thanks Kurt but please move on.

I don't see much of a problem here, Crawford can be the 6th man combo guard that many think he will excell at. We can start Q, who is also a good post up player and play Ariza..Screw TT, I hope he is in another uniform, I am tired of him. I liked KT but hopefully this trade works for both teams..

Posted by tkf:

I don't see much of a problem here, Crawford can be the 6th man combo guard that many think he will excell at. We can start Q, who is also a good post up player and play Ariza..Screw TT, I hope he is in another uniform, I am tired of him. I liked KT but hopefully this trade works for both teams..

Problem is I don't think thats the plan. I think the plan is to assemble the shortest and worst defensive backcourt of Marbury, craw & Q in NBA history

Posted by gunsnewing:

Posted by tkf:

I don't see much of a problem here, Crawford can be the 6th man combo guard that many think he will excell at. We can start Q, who is also a good post up player and play Ariza..Screw TT, I hope he is in another uniform, I am tired of him. I liked KT but hopefully this trade works for both teams..

Problem is I don't think thats the plan. I think the plan is to assemble the shortest and worst defensive backcourt of Marbury, craw & Q in NBA history

How do you consider craw and Q both 6'5 and 6'6 small?
I could also say a backcourt of eisley and Houston were not stellar, I could name others, but I don't think the plan you detailed is IT's plan.... I have more confidence thant that....

Look here, I don't worry about our back court,especially if Q will be the starting SG. Ginobli is not taller than Q and he is very successful. Granted that all of his success have something to do with TD in the middle, but the dude has the heart of a lion and I hope that guys like Q emulate a little the way this young talented undersize SG plays the game. Marb is a much tougher player than Parker, but the only difference is that Parker is better coached. I think if we are to acquire a good coach who knows how to strategize, our players can overachieve.

Posted by fishmike:

Posted by Knicksfan:

About the problems at SF, you could always draft Graham who I think will be avaliable when we pick. Granger is a possibility, but will he be there? Hmm, lets see. Then you could do the Boozer trade, and voilá, there you have a better starting SF and PF.

Or you could take Frye, use him at center and hope Sweetney is finally ready to play. Later on in his career, use Frye as the starting PF and get a Center.

forget Frye... the safe pick is Ike. He played center in college and with his 7'5 wingspan is only an inch shorter than Frye anyway. He's got the same shooting range as KT, but also the best post moves in CBB. He gets the FT line, blocks shots and gets 12 boards a game. A chisled 240 lbs and he's got a real motor and is a tough player. He's not going to be a star but he will fight and claw every night and give you KT type numbers, probably right away.

Something like the second coming of Ben Wallace?

But I read that Fryw is between 6'10"-6'11" where Ike is listed as 6'8"...

[Edited by - KnicksFan on 06/24/2005 11:16:02]

If they use Q properly, and post him and keep him off the three point line he is going to be much more effective and shoot a higher percentage.....

I hate Channing Frye he is a Loren Woods clone, Isiah still gets a little bit of time although i am not a fan of his moves, i would like this move if we never made the crawford deal, or the mohammed deal, we would have roster space

Isiah isn't really all that bright when it comes to making transactions

It has been reported lately that its Isiah recieving the pick, not giving it up. We'll see...

I dont understand how this trade sucks when we getting a Physical Shooting Guard that doesnt have a max contract. we get younger plus we add another first round pick for the future. Kurt Thomas is a 32 year old role player. We have a 25 year old starter.

Posted by Cookdcokehop:

I dont understand how this trade sucks when we getting a Physical Shooting Guard that doesnt have a max contract. we get younger plus we add another first round pick for the future. Kurt Thomas is a 32 year old role player. We have a 25 year old starter.

exactly, people here just like to bash every trade... i mean, you see what people post, the proposals and how lopsided they are.