Posted by Pharzeone:

Posted by fishmike:

Dujuan Wagner also scored a 100 in a game and was one of the most prolific scorers in HS ever. Hell... did Lebron score 40 a game, or was it his skills that made him so great

What skills does Bynum process that Jefferson doesn't have. All I heard so far that is biggest skill is he is 7 feet 2 inches. That's not a skill that's an attribute. And still growing stuff is sort of strange because we can say that about any 18 year old. I waiting to see some post on how his post game is so far superior to anyone in the draft, that he has a long range jumper that makes him effective outside and in. How does he have more upside than a guy like Frye, will get faster, will he get more agile than Frye, will he develop a better shot, will he be a better passer, stuff like that. Hell I am willing to take Bynum but so far I haven't really been sold accept that he did ok as a high school player and he is 7 feet 2 inches and 17 years old. And what hurts most of all is that he canceled his workout. Unless he was guarantee a pick higher than 7 or 8 than he is fool and could be indication of problems to come with this young man.

Posted by Solace:

Bonn1 and Bonn2... again, nobody is saying that Bynum is the greatest player of all time (yet :P). The point is that if you can get 17-10-2 out of a 7'2" center who can guard any center that's huge. It's huge when you consider against the fact that most centers average something like 7-5-1. A guy who can do that is more valuable than a 6'8" 20-10 PF because of the size. You have to take the size into consideration. Not taking the size into consideration is just stupid.

Posted by OldFan:

Posted by Solace:

Bonn1 and Bonn2... again, nobody is saying that Bynum is the greatest player of all time (yet :P). The point is that if you can get 17-10-2 out of a 7'2" center who can guard any center that's huge. It's huge when you consider against the fact that most centers average something like 7-5-1. A guy who can do that is more valuable than a 6'8" 20-10 PF because of the size. You have to take the size into consideration. Not taking the size into consideration is just stupid.

Where did the 17-10-2 come from?
Why do you think he can average that?
When do you think he can average that?

I agree those are great stats but what are they based on??

That's all I am saying. I keep seeing these magical stats on a 17 kid. That's like me saying that Webster is going to put 28.3 ppg, or any of these guys. Forget it. Hey if Isiah drafts this kid, I will be rooting extremely hard for him and waiting patiently for his HOF induction. He gets it before the "Human Highlight.".

Posted by OldFan:

Posted by Solace:

Bonn1 and Bonn2... again, nobody is saying that Bynum is the greatest player of all time (yet :P). The point is that if you can get 17-10-2 out of a 7'2" center who can guard any center that's huge. It's huge when you consider against the fact that most centers average something like 7-5-1. A guy who can do that is more valuable than a 6'8" 20-10 PF because of the size. You have to take the size into consideration. Not taking the size into consideration is just stupid.

Where did the 17-10-2 come from?
Why do you think he can average that?
When do you think he can average that?

I agree those are great stats but what are they based on??

Size skills, desire


OLDFAN--every year there are new superstars, yes there will be new all star C and new great F+G who average 20+ points. Bogut and Bynum both have great chances to be great, I think they will--someone has to, right? dwight Howard and emeka averaged nice numbers their first years and poised to really break out. Did you think Dwayne Wade would be a superstar this fast, it happened and it will happen with other players. yes, the league will continue to have new stars who average 20+ points, new hall of famers and all stars, thats the way in all sports. Hey I think you are looking at a top 5 player of all time in the making in Amare Stoudemire.

Posted by BRIGGS:

Posted by OldFan:

Posted by Solace:

Bonn1 and Bonn2... again, nobody is saying that Bynum is the greatest player of all time (yet :P). The point is that if you can get 17-10-2 out of a 7'2" center who can guard any center that's huge. It's huge when you consider against the fact that most centers average something like 7-5-1. A guy who can do that is more valuable than a 6'8" 20-10 PF because of the size. You have to take the size into consideration. Not taking the size into consideration is just stupid.

Where did the 17-10-2 come from?
Why do you think he can average that?
When do you think he can average that?

I agree those are great stats but what are they based on??

Size skills, desire


OLDFAN--every year there are new superstars, yes there will be new all star C and new great F+G who average 20+ points. Bogut and Bynum both have great chances to be great, I think they will--someone has to, right? dwight Howard and emeka averaged nice numbers their first years and poised to really break out. Did you think Dwayne Wade would be a superstar this fast, it happened and it will happen with other players. yes, the league will continue to have new stars who average 20+ points, new hall of famers and all stars, thats the way in all sports. Hey I think you are looking at a top 5 player of all time in the making in Amare Stoudemire.