assuming there are no other deals, who would you pick at the 6th and the 30th?

Wright? Granger? Frye? Bynum? Graham? Vasquez?

Marb
Craw
TT/Ariza
BOOZER/Sweetney
KT

I'd still say Bynum. Or Wright.

[Edited by - sky on 06/17/2005 01:39:02]

Always BPA, but at 30, I'd look for a wing player and 54 a PG.

Posted by SKY:

assuming there are no other deals, who would you pick at the 6th and the 30th?

Wright? Granger? Frye? Bynum? Graham? Vasquez?

Marb
Craw
TT/Ariza
[b]BOOZER [/b/Sweetney
KT

I'd still say Bynum. Or Wright.

I'd pick a wing player, they seem to be the best players at that position.

Why would Utah give up a better pick and a young player who has just had two very good seasons for Penny Hardaway? Because of his expiring contract? Keep dreaming!

oohah

Posted by oohah:

Why would Utah give up a better pick and a young player who has just had two very good seasons for Penny Hardaway? Because of his expiring contract? Keep dreaming!

oohah

For Utah, unless they can get the PG that they want, the difference between #6 abd #8 is probably nil. They are one of the very cost conscious teams and do want to build a team full of players who immediately buy into Jerry Sloan's team concept - see Arroyo. Booz seems to not fit in Jerry's coaching plan and he has a VERY big contract.

Say that one of Granger/Joey Graham both are available at #8, that would fit into their team play concept and could be a Harper replacement.

Posted by oohah:

[quote]For Utah, unless they can get the PG that they want, the difference between #6 abd #8 is probably nil. They are one of the very cost conscious teams and do want to build a team full of players who immediately buy into Jerry Sloan's team concept - see Arroyo. Booz seems to not fit in Jerry's coaching plan and he has a VERY big contract.

Say that one of Granger/Joey Graham both are available at #8, that would fit into their team play concept and could be a Harper replacement.

Chris Paul definitely won't be available at 6 but DEron might...still Utah might want felton instead in which case they could most likely trade down with the Knicks. sicne the knicks can't trade their pick anyway until after they select, Utah will see how the draft unfolds and let the Knicks know. If the knicks draft felton, deron williams, or another point guard we can be pretty sure there is a trade going on.

I think if we get boozer we have to deal sweetney for a good shooting guard, maybe with TT. If we get boozer were committing to not try and cut salaries anyway, so we might as well try to be competitive. Sweetney has value but not if we have boozer...we will be fine with boozer and any one of malik/jyd/mo/kurt. maybe we could deal sweetney for a center?

Posted by martin:

2 of 3 of JYD/KT/Rose + #8 for Booz + #6 + #54.

make sense for us but I dont completely agree with the Utah side. I think they can do better for Boozer than JYD/KT/Rose.

EDIT: If they dont take the expiring contract, we dont have anything they want.

[Edited by - Silverfuel on 06/17/2005 11:33:09]

Posted by gunsnewing:

I think the key in moving up from 8 to 6 is having a better shot at Gerald Green who Isiah likes. He will never last past Tononto at 7

That is certainly true. Green will most likely not be taken at 3 unless the Blazers trade the pick to someone who wants to draft Green at 3.

Only problem is I think the Bobcats would take Green at 5. But you are right in saying we would have a better chance at him. The 6th pick would also let us choose between Graham/Granger/Wright instead of being at Toronto's mercy.

Posted by franco12:

if we're going to give some huge cap relief to another team, I kinda would rather get another pick out of this draft than just move up 2 notches- sure, we can argue about Boozer and whether he's a good player or overpaid- but merely the fact that we can disagree is reason enough not to add him to our roster.

No its not. There are no players who we all agree on. When the KG rumor was floating around respected people on this board were making arguments not to get him.

Posted by Killa4luv:

Posted by franco12:

if we're going to give some huge cap relief to another team, I kinda would rather get another pick out of this draft than just move up 2 notches- sure, we can argue about Boozer and whether he's a good player or overpaid- but merely the fact that we can disagree is reason enough not to add him to our roster.

No its not. There are no players who we all agree on. When the KG rumor was floating around respected people on this board were making arguments not to get him.

You can't argue that KG is talented and a top 10 player in the league- you might argue that getting him at his age is a bad move.

We've seen what, three years from Boozer? Is he good, over hyped? He's certainly not an allstar and I'd argue over paid.

My point is that if we're giving tremendous cap relief to another team, and possibly taking a big hit on the super tax, lets do a little better than Carlos Loozer.

If Jerry Sloan doesn't want him, I don't want him. I want tough nosed, hard edged players. Do the toronto deal for Penny for Jalen and their mid pick. Jalen might be older and a pain in the butt, but he's downright lethal at times, isn't cap damage like Boozer and we get another draft pick.