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Memphis' pick seems to be for sale, and we don't seem to be interested.
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Killa4luv
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6/16/2005  7:32 AM
Who’s buying Memphis’ pick?

You’ve probably heard by now that Memphis has some financial issues and needs to balance their books now with all the money they are losing and the fact that Jerry West is leaving the team after next season. They would love to dump Jason Williams in return for that pick, but no one is biting. They might just settle for a cool 3 million along with someone’s 2nd rounder. The teams that are rumored to be most interested are the Cavs, Sixers and Hawks. Both the Cavs and Sixers have yet to work anyone that is first round caliber out. The Cavs have an ace up their sleeve, though, in Intern GM Mark Warkentien who was responsible for drafting both Jermaine O’neal at 17 and Zach Randolph at 19 while he was with the Portland Trailblazers. Clearly he knows how to make a lot out of a little and the Cavs should be in good shape even if they don’t get to work anyone out.
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Killa4luv
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6/16/2005  7:34 AM
I'd like us to get that pick but I think that looking at the roster, I don't see how we can have 4 picks in the draft and fit all these guys on the team.
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6/16/2005  7:41 AM
Posted by Killa4luv:

I'd like us to get that pick but I think that looking at the roster, I don't see how we can have 4 picks in the draft and fit all these guys on the team.

They might just settle for a cool 3 million along with someone’s 2nd rounder

that would take care of our 4th pick.

or take someone at 54 from europe and have them stay there for a year or 2.
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6/16/2005  7:42 AM
If we bought their 1st rounder, the 54th pick w probably be included in the deal. Even if not, the player picked there would likely not make the team, or the 2 later picks could be used on Euros and left overseas until the roster glut clears. 19+ 30 could also be used to try to trade up into ther 10-15 range. There's a lot of options that open up by getting a mid first rounder like this.
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6/16/2005  7:44 AM
so? 19 will be a good pick, especially if your in the market for a guard, which we are. MAybe you then use that and move up.
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6/16/2005  7:54 AM
Zeke and the loggo are good friends, so maybe they are talking about a deal for that pick....
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6/16/2005  10:11 AM
if we're going to help other teams save money, then memphis makes sense as most of their players are young and talented
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6/16/2005  10:48 AM
Williams and Marbury would be pretty good. I wouldn't draft a pg. I would sign a backup point guard, say Frank Williams for defense purposes with part of the MLE. I don't think the Bulls will be resigning him. Penny becomes extremely expendable, cut him. Cut Bruno, Jackson.

Marbury/J. Williams/Crawford at pg
Houston/Crawford/Marbury/wing draft pick at sg
Ariza/TT/wing draft pick at sf
Sweetney/JYD/Malik Rose/draft pick pf/c
KT/JB/Malik Rose/draft pick pf/c
IR=draft pick pf/c

I say start your season like that. I accounted for the 3 first rounders. I would IR Frank Williams too at the start of the season. It is more than possible that Houston will be on the IR anyway. I would IR the biggest project young guy. If that is JB and not the pf/c draft pick than IR him. Constantly look to trade TT, KT, Rose, and JYD for picks during season. If someone blows you away I would trade either Marbury or J. Williams for picks and another young body. So that way you can constantly make adjustments to your roster while obtaining, developing, and implementing young talent in your line up without it being a culture shock to them. That way it would be easier to bring in high risk high reward type of draft picks because you have time to develop them.
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6/16/2005  10:48 AM
$3 million and pick 54 for pick 19 would be great. Take Hogde, McCants, Bynum or Blatche. Though I get the impression Bynum and Hodge won't be available there.
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6/16/2005  10:58 AM
Kind of really makes you wonder what zeke was thinking if a pick 11 spots up was there for cash instead of taking Rose's contract back, and hanging onto a good back-up center/starter
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6/16/2005  11:21 AM
Posted by MS:

Kind of really makes you wonder what zeke was thinking if a pick 11 spots up was there for cash instead of taking Rose's contract back, and hanging onto a good back-up center/starter

Wonder no longer. This pick hasn't been made available for cash until recently.
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6/16/2005  11:40 AM
Posted by eViL:
Posted by MS:

Kind of really makes you wonder what zeke was thinking if a pick 11 spots up was there for cash instead of taking Rose's contract back, and hanging onto a good back-up center/starter

Wonder no longer. This pick hasn't been made available for cash until recently.

no, but you could have stayed put with the reasonable expectation that a team like memphis might look to dump/sell their pick for budgetary reasons- seems to happen often enough.

I don't know but I would rather do a deal like Nazr & Cash for pick 19 & swift with some respective filler than Nazr for Rose & 30 this year and a likely late pick next year in a potentially thin draft.
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6/16/2005  11:45 AM
Penny plus Kurt plus pick 8 plus 3 mil (to help them pay for pick 8) for Pau Gasol plus pick #19 plus Jason Williams. Replace Kurt with JYD if there more interested in saving money than getting the better player.

[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 06/16/2005 11:46:30]
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6/16/2005  11:49 AM
JYD IS A KEEPER, and Isiah should never look to move this kid...He knows that he is a role player and he is willing to play his role...On the other hand, Kurt will always be an issue, because he thinks that he is a star in this league..

Posted by Bonn1997:

Penny plus Kurt plus pick 8 plus 3 mil (to help them pay for pick 8) for Pau Gasol plus pick #19 plus Jason Williams. Replace Kurt with JYD if there more interested in saving money than getting the better player.

[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 06/16/2005 11:46:30]
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6/16/2005  1:02 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:

Penny plus Kurt plus pick 8 plus 3 mil (to help them pay for pick 8) for Pau Gasol plus pick #19 plus Jason Williams. Replace Kurt with JYD if there more interested in saving money than getting the better player.

[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 06/16/2005 11:46:30]

This isn't a bad trade but I think we would need to re-direct Jason Williams to a 3rd team- he's too good to be on the bench.

Isn't Charlotte looking for a pg? why not Williams & 19 for pick 13?
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6/16/2005  1:17 PM
They would laught at the offer...Charlotte is not trying to acquire big contracts..s

Posted by franco12:
Posted by Bonn1997:

Penny plus Kurt plus pick 8 plus 3 mil (to help them pay for pick 8) for Pau Gasol plus pick #19 plus Jason Williams. Replace Kurt with JYD if there more interested in saving money than getting the better player.

[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 06/16/2005 11:46:30]

This isn't a bad trade but I think we would need to re-direct Jason Williams to a 3rd team- he's too good to be on the bench.

Isn't Charlotte looking for a pg? why not Williams & 19 for pick 13?
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6/16/2005  1:26 PM
Posted by franco12:
Posted by Bonn1997:

Penny plus Kurt plus pick 8 plus 3 mil (to help them pay for pick 8) for Pau Gasol plus pick #19 plus Jason Williams. Replace Kurt with JYD if there more interested in saving money than getting the better player.

[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 06/16/2005 11:46:30]

This isn't a bad trade but I think we would need to re-direct Jason Williams to a 3rd team- he's too good to be on the bench.

Isn't Charlotte looking for a pg? why not Williams & 19 for pick 13?
That is a horrible trade. Why would a team give up a proven commodity to just move up 6 picks in a draft where it is possible that 19 could be as good if not better than 13.
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6/16/2005  1:39 PM
Posted by diderotn:

They would laught at the offer...Charlotte is not trying to acquire big contracts..s

Posted by franco12:
Posted by Bonn1997:

Penny plus Kurt plus pick 8 plus 3 mil (to help them pay for pick 8) for Pau Gasol plus pick #19 plus Jason Williams. Replace Kurt with JYD if there more interested in saving money than getting the better player.

[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 06/16/2005 11:46:30]

This isn't a bad trade but I think we would need to re-direct Jason Williams to a 3rd team- he's too good to be on the bench.

Isn't Charlotte looking for a pg? why not Williams & 19 for pick 13?
They're desperate for money. There's just no way they can afford the huge increase in Pau's contract that kicks in next season and afford to keep paying Jason Williams. No other team is going to give them a lottery pick and take Jason Williams off their hands.
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6/16/2005  1:40 PM
Posted by diderotn:

JYD IS A KEEPER, and Isiah should never look to move this kid...He knows that he is a role player and he is willing to play his role...On the other hand, Kurt will always be an issue, because he thinks that he is a star in this league..

Posted by Bonn1997:

Penny plus Kurt plus pick 8 plus 3 mil (to help them pay for pick 8) for Pau Gasol plus pick #19 plus Jason Williams. Replace Kurt with JYD if there more interested in saving money than getting the better player.

[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 06/16/2005 11:46:30]
JYD is a wonderful role player but you can't seriously turn down a trade where we got a 24 year old 18/9/2 player from a 50 win team because you're attached to a role player on our team.
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6/16/2005  2:13 PM
Memphis really got screwed with the 04' draft otherwise they would be in business with melo,wade,bosh, but they are really in a tough spot...

JYD is one of the few Knicks that is actually worth cheering for, don't move him
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