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BRIGGS
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6/14/2005  11:40 AM
From Hoopshype:

Gerald Green was supposed to come in for a workout but Green has said he will only work out for them if he is alone and not going head to head with anyone else. Nash in response has told him to not bother if that's the case. Nash believes Green should be up to the challenge.


now at the last second these HS kids are tumbling? Guess the Knicks could possibly have their opportunity to take Green if they desire.

Still, no matter what, we get so Fd by losing position 7 for nOTHINg. Unless we take frye, we are at the mercy of Toronto--whoever the pick might be.
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6/14/2005  11:58 AM
I don't think 7 vs. 8 makes much difference. I think that's been overrated on this site.
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6/14/2005  12:28 PM
Luol Deng, Hinrich, Nene, Eddie Griffin, Chris Mihm, Rip Hamilton, Jason Williams, Tim Thomas , Lorenzen Wright, Damon Stoudamire.

Those are your last 10 picks at 7. There are some pretty good players that were off the board if your picking 8.
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6/14/2005  12:36 PM
Andre Iguodala, Mike Sweetney, Amare stoudemire, Rodney white, Pryzbilla, shawn marion, Dirk Nowitzki, Tracy mcgrady, samaki walker, ed obannon

Those are your last 10 picks at 9. There are some pretty good players that were on the board if you are picking 8.

Maybe we should have won more games.

I'm just saying.

[Edited by - rvhoss on 06/14/2005 12:37:33]
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6/14/2005  12:39 PM
Posted by purple012870:

I don't think 7 vs. 8 makes much difference. I think that's been overrated on this site.
That makes two of us.
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6/14/2005  12:44 PM
....and to be 2005 specific, I think the best value (draft slot vs. production) will be in the 8-20 range (Granger for sure, maybe Warrick, Graham, Wright, Diogu). I would personally take any of those guys over Frye & Vasquez (guys who will go earlier). There's obviously a premium on guys 6'9" + so lesser players go higher than they should. For example, how the hell did Richard Jefferson slip as far as he did??? Yet, Chris Mihm goes at 4.
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6/14/2005  12:52 PM
Posted by rvhoss:

Andre Iguodala, Mike Sweetney, Amare stoudemire, Rodney white, Pryzbilla, shawn marion, Dirk Nowitzki, Tracy mcgrady, samaki walker, ed obannon

Those are your last 10 picks at 9. There are some pretty good players that were on the board if you are picking 8.

Maybe we should have won more games.

I'm just saying.

[Edited by - rvhoss on 06/14/2005 12:37:33]
Great Post!!!!!!!!!!!
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6/14/2005  1:01 PM
What's the deal with those young HS players today??? here is a dude who has yet to prove anything in his basketball career, but still has the nerves to be demanding ****...Is this what the NBA is down to now???? Teams around the league needs to start setting examples to those wet behind the ears youngins....Don't draft him in the first round, let him go to the second round....
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6/14/2005  1:09 PM
Posted by purple012870:

....and to be 2005 specific, I think the best value (draft slot vs. production) will be in the 8-20 range (Granger for sure, maybe Warrick, Graham, Wright, Diogu).
This is so true, but it is mainly because the expectations aren't as high for a pick in this range and the talent that you get back could be really high.

I agree, I would love to have 2 picks between 8 and 25.
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6/14/2005  1:15 PM
Posted by Killa4luv:
Posted by purple012870:

I don't think 7 vs. 8 makes much difference. I think that's been overrated on this site.
That makes two of us.
That makes three of us. It does make a tiny difference if you're picking 7 or 8, but it's a bit crazy to say that we got totally f'd by picking 8 instead of 7.
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6/14/2005  1:17 PM
If Isiah feels that Bynum is a better project, than he will make that decision..
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6/14/2005  1:22 PM
lol you guys are funny. Who needs options? Sometimes there are 5 good players yoy like. Othertimes there are 7. Saying it doesnt matter is stupid.

Lets say there are 6 cookies and 6 kids. You pick 5th. Sure.. no matter what happens there will still be 2 cookies to choose from and after all a cookie *is* a cookie.

Too bad after choc chip, Oreo, Vanilla Wafer and NutterButter are taken your left with crumpets and low-fat oatmeal. Hey... a cookie is a cookie right?
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6/14/2005  1:25 PM
Fish, what the hell are you talking about???? In a cookie jar, there is no such thing as 5 different positions...in basketball, you need a PG, SG, SF, PF, AND a CENTER...that analogy that you have made, makes no sense at all. I agree that a cookie is a cookie, but you are talking about apple and oranges here..


Posted by fishmike:

lol you guys are funny. Who needs options? Sometimes there are 5 good players yoy like. Othertimes there are 7. Saying it doesnt matter is stupid.

Lets say there are 6 cookies and 6 kids. You pick 5th. Sure.. no matter what happens there will still be 2 cookies to choose from and after all a cookie *is* a cookie.

Too bad after choc chip, Oreo, Vanilla Wafer and NutterButter are taken your left with crumpets and low-fat oatmeal. Hey... a cookie is a cookie right?
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6/14/2005  1:31 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:

From Hoopshype:

Gerald Green was supposed to come in for a workout but Green has said he will only work out for them if he is alone and not going head to head with anyone else. Nash in response has told him to not bother if that's the case. Nash believes Green should be up to the challenge.


now at the last second these HS kids are tumbling? Guess the Knicks could possibly have their opportunity to take Green if they desire.

Still, no matter what, we get so Fd by losing position 7 for nOTHINg. Unless we take frye, we are at the mercy of Toronto--whoever the pick might be.
To me that is not much of a shocker. It was no secret that Nash liked Wright more than Green. I am sure Green's people knew this and figure that is who he would be going head to head against. So now Nash has the excuse to his fans and can select the guy he really wants, Wright.
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6/14/2005  1:34 PM
Posted by fishmike:

lol you guys are funny. Who needs options? Sometimes there are 5 good players yoy like. Othertimes there are 7. Saying it doesnt matter is stupid.

Lets say there are 6 cookies and 6 kids. You pick 5th. Sure.. no matter what happens there will still be 2 cookies to choose from and after all a cookie *is* a cookie.

Too bad after choc chip, Oreo, Vanilla Wafer and NutterButter are taken your left with crumpets and low-fat oatmeal. Hey... a cookie is a cookie right?
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6/14/2005  1:38 PM
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by fishmike:

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I think fish has gone crazy. (just jokes fishy)

[Edited by - rvhoss on 06/14/2005 13:38:41]
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6/14/2005  1:49 PM
I just hope that Chocolate Coated Double Dipped Oreo's are still on the board when we pick at 8.
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6/14/2005  1:52 PM
Posted by eViL:

I just hope that Chocolate Coated Double Dipped Oreo's are still on the board when we pick at 8.
nope! GONE!!!! But Toronto is having them, with milk. Keep telling yourself one spot doesnt matter while you choke down some fat free crap while watching Babc*ck eating your favorite Chocolate Coated Double Dipped Oreos
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6/14/2005  1:54 PM
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

FARGIN' CANADIANS!!! KEEP YOUR GRIMEY HANDS OFF OF OUR COOKIES!!!
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6/14/2005  2:10 PM
Posted by fishmike:
Posted by eViL:

I just hope that Chocolate Coated Double Dipped Oreo's are still on the board when we pick at 8.
nope! GONE!!!! But Toronto is having them, with milk. Keep telling yourself one spot doesnt matter while you choke down some fat free crap while watching Babc*ck eating your favorite Chocolate Coated Double Dipped Oreos

AAAAA-MEN! I wonder what these guys will say when Granger is a perenial all-star for the Raptors? Isiah should traded up, right? sigh.
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