Posted by technomaster:


As far as Billups vs Marbury goes... Marbury is a better player---

I'm all for trading Marbury in a rebuild scenario, but the point you just made is an important one, certainly one that bears repeating. Marbury's offense is far superior to Billups. If you replace Billups with Marbury, Parker gets annihilated and donations are made to the ensuing Wallace dunk-a-thon. Pistons win 4-1.

Sure you dont care about the money now. Its when guys dont work out and you have made it impossible to do anything about it because of their contracts.

Isiah said the MLE was never an option for Dampier and point blank said that he was going to try and do everything he could to get a deal that he deserved.

Posted by rojasmas:

Before we go giving Larry Brown all the credit for righting Billup's career, let's remember that Billup's career starting taking off under Rick Carlisle when he coached the Pistons. Carlisle never seems to get the credit of LB but beat Larry Brown when Brown had a superior Sixers team and Carlisle was coaching the Pistons. Also, let's not forget that Carlisle did a heck of a job with the Pistons and probably would have won a championship with them too if Rasheed came to him on his watch. Bouqets for Larry Brown but he was put in a pretty good situation and Billups had already turned the corner.

I wouldn't say it's a huge misconception-- we're talking about Ilgauskas here, not Ben Wallace or Dikembe Mutombo in his prime. Ilgauskas is far superior OFFENSIVE player to either of those two. You might even call his defense a liability.

The reason why you'd want Ilgauskas is for offense in the post. You wouldn't bring him here to be your big defensive stopper/fast break starter. As a coach, you'd want to maximize his strengths and mask his weaknesses by the system.

Forget about TT. He's gone, he's nothing. I can't wait to dump him.

Posted by gunsnewing:

Posted by technomaster:

Ilgauskas is awesome... though with him you're commiting yourself to playing with a half-court offense most of the time... and you'll need some good defensive guards to slow down the other team until your center can get back on D.

As far as Billups vs Marbury goes... Marbury is a better player--- HOWEVER... considering his salary is 3 or 4x more than Billups, it leaves less room to buy good teammates.

If you're gonna get franchise-style money, you'd better be able to carry your team.

Ben Wallace also comes in bargain priced. Does Detroit have any max players?

that is a huge misconception. You can still build a running team around a shotblocking Center who can rebound and get the break started.

Problem is with or without Z we are not a running team. The inconsistent TT unfornately is our feautured player in the half court in Herb's spectacle offensive scheme!