Posted by crzymdups:

Posted by MaulingandAppalling:

Regarding Frye, IT is putting his business in the street in a way that isn't characteristic. I haven't seen him be open like this in the past, and pretty much all of his scouting, and trades, have surprised a lot of people including the professional reporters. Here's my point: what is IT up to with all the Frye stuff?

If it is misdirection, why? I don't see what would be gained by it for us at 8.

Isiah is ALWAYS very open at draft time. He doesn't know how to keep a secret. Every in the league knew he was going to take Damon, Camby, Tmac and Fred Jones at each particular draft - but he still took them.

I think Isiah is one of the GMs who is worse than keeping a secret than anyone. Probably because, in the Knicks case, there are about 30 beat writers snooping around, as opposed to the one who follows around the Sacramento Kings GM.

I mentioned this on another thread, but I think IT has been the exact opposite of what you describe here since he's been on the Knicks. Think of all of his moves as Knicks GM.

1) Trading Spoon (The papers thought it would be a buyout and didnt mention any trade opportunities)
2) Trading for Marbury (Absolutely nothing in the press leaked on this one).
3) Trading KVH for TT and Nazr (People thought KVH was gonna be traded and TT was mentioned only on the morning of the deal, but absolutely nothing leaked about a 3 way with nazr involved).
4) Drafting Ariza- A lot of prospects were mentioned, but not this guy
5) Getting Crawford- Probably the only move the press was all over, and by virtue of it being a sign and trade and because the agent was involved, thats where the leaks probably came from.
5) Trading Nazr and acquiring Malik and Mo at the deadline (KT was the rumor du jour, and while Malik had been on our radar, certainly these trades come by some surprise).

So I think he's been very good at not tipping his hand as GM of the Knicks, and over time we've heard a lot of things that haven't come to fruition (Craw was the real exception).

[Edited by - VDesai on 06/11/2005 17:23:32]

Posted by gunsnewing:


thank you for making that clear. No wonder you're one of my favorite posters here

Posted by VDesai:


I mentioned this on another thread, but I think IT has been the exact opposite of what you describe here since he's been on the Knicks. Think of all of his moves as Knicks GM.

1) Trading Spoon (The papers thought it would be a buyout and didnt mention any trade opportunities)
2) Trading for Marbury (Absolutely nothing in the press leaked on this one).
3) Trading KVH for TT and Nazr (People thought KVH was gonna be traded and TT was mentioned only on the morning of the deal, but absolutely nothing leaked about a 3 way with nazr involved).
4) Drafting Ariza- A lot of prospects were mentioned, but not this guy
5) Getting Crawford- Probably the only move the press was all over, and by virtue of it being a sign and trade and because the agent was involved, thats where the leaks probably came from.
5) Trading Nazr and acquiring Malik and Mo at the deadline (KT was the rumor du jour, and while Malik had been on our radar, certainly these trades come by some surprise).

So I think he's been very good at not tipping his hand as GM of the Knicks, and over time we've heard a lot of things that haven't come to fruition (Craw was the real exception).

[Edited by - VDesai on 06/11/2005 17:23:32]