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update on Bynum, just posted on Uconn Insider
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BRIGGS
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5/25/2005  1:48 PM
from someone who saw him workout yesterday

it was one of those long winded 5 paragraph things that you cant stay focused on but here is the gist

surprising agility and speed improvements, body is in fantastic shape

hitting jump hook and free throw based jumpers with regularity

intesity level was very high on rebounding drills,showing great hands as he was able to grab a high %


post moves improving significantly. had two moves to his right that that looked very fluid


there is a lot of jargin but this is the basics and last but not least, he does not believe Bynum will be coming to Uconn.


so this will be intersting. Not many people knew that he was coming of a bone bruise and sprained knee ligaments that made him miss most of the season and effected him into the MCD game. Obviously he has healed going two a day, and coming away from this write up, I think what we will see is going to be surprising. we will see in a week or so.
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5/25/2005  1:55 PM
yea.. to me right now this draft is a 2 man race for us. Blatche and Bynum. Its hard for me to find reason not to take one of these guys.
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5/25/2005  2:08 PM
fishmike... trade down and take one of the two? Or stay where we are?
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5/25/2005  2:09 PM
Man I love to hear that about Bynum but you know how much scrutiny he and Blatche are going to get over the next month!
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5/25/2005  2:12 PM
Posted by Marv:

Man I love to hear that about Bynum but you know how much scrutiny he and Blatche are going to get over the next month!

hey, Amare fell.

right now, my board would be:

1) Frye
2) Bynum
3) Warrick
4) Blatche

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5/25/2005  2:14 PM
Posted by rain:

fishmike... trade down and take one of the two? Or stay where we are?

If you trade down, neither one may be available. No reason not to take one with the 8th. Actually, we might even have to trade UP to get one, b/c of Bynum has great workouts, Briggs says he may go top 5, understandably.
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5/25/2005  2:24 PM
Isiah has a history of taking the guy he wants where he wants him and not trading down and taking a risk that he won't be there. See Fred Jones.
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5/25/2005  2:28 PM
now i lay thee down to sleep, and pray ariza zeke will keep. if a player like bynum the knicks do get, you can bet your sweet azz we'll be a threat. (ofcourse w/minor tweeking)
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5/25/2005  2:32 PM
Posted by crzymdups:

Isiah has a history of taking the guy he wants where he wants him and not trading down and taking a risk that he won't be there. See Fred Jones.

Wasn't he coach and not GM?
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5/25/2005  2:51 PM
Posted by Marv:
Posted by crzymdups:

Isiah has a history of taking the guy he wants where he wants him and not trading down and taking a risk that he won't be there. See Fred Jones.

Wasn't he coach and not GM?

Jones was a guy he became obsessed with after a workout. Yeah, Donnie Walsh technically made the pick, but it was Zeke's choice.
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5/25/2005  2:53 PM
What if we got Bynum(#8) and Blatche(hopefully #19)
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5/25/2005  2:57 PM
Posted by Cookdcokehop:

What if we got Bynum(#8) and Blatche(hopefully #19)

bow down and thank the lord...whatever lord you like...in that case I would thank Lord Isiah.
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5/25/2005  5:13 PM
Posted by rain:

fishmike... trade down and take one of the two? Or stay where we are?

Not a bad idea Rain. I've read on ESPN Insider that Golden State is extremely high on Taft and they want him. What if Isiah traded #8 and next years 2nd Rounder to GSW for #9, #40 and a future first round protected pick. Do you guys think this is too much of Zeke to ask for? With this deal the Knicks can take Bynum, I'd be happy taking him over Taft if the Knicks were able to get a few picks out of the deal. After these workouts, especially the one that Briggs posted above, the more I think Bynum should probably the guy that Isiah picks.
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5/25/2005  5:19 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by rain:

fishmike... trade down and take one of the two? Or stay where we are?

Not a bad idea Rain. I've read on ESPN Insider that Golden State is extremely high on Taft and they want him. What if Isiah traded #8 and next years 2nd Rounder to GSW for #9, #40 and a future first round protected pick. Do you guys think this is too much of Zeke to ask for? With this deal the Knicks can take Bynum, I'd be happy taking him over Taft if the Knicks were able to get a few picks out of the deal. After these workouts, especially the one that Briggs posted above, the more I think Bynum should probably the guy that Isiah picks.

to trade down one slot for a guy they know we don't want? I think we could get a second round pick at most.
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5/25/2005  5:31 PM
Posted by crzymdups:
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by rain:

fishmike... trade down and take one of the two? Or stay where we are?

Not a bad idea Rain. I've read on ESPN Insider that Golden State is extremely high on Taft and they want him. What if Isiah traded #8 and next years 2nd Rounder to GSW for #9, #40 and a future first round protected pick. Do you guys think this is too much of Zeke to ask for? With this deal the Knicks can take Bynum, I'd be happy taking him over Taft if the Knicks were able to get a few picks out of the deal. After these workouts, especially the one that Briggs posted above, the more I think Bynum should probably the guy that Isiah picks.

to trade down one slot for a guy they know we don't want? I think we could get a second round pick at most.

Who says Isiah doesn't want him? If Isiah makes it clear that he will take him at 8 then GS might think about the deal I proposed.

I still think Taft will an excellent pro and I'd take him in a second but when you have the ability to still take a 7'0 18 year old center then the downside to not drafting Taft isnt that bad. I never heard Isiah say he did not want Taft, matter of fact I havent heard him talk about ANYONE in this draft.

[Edited by - nyk4ever on 05/25/2005 17:32:07]
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5/25/2005  6:12 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by crzymdups:
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by rain:

fishmike... trade down and take one of the two? Or stay where we are?

Not a bad idea Rain. I've read on ESPN Insider that Golden State is extremely high on Taft and they want him. What if Isiah traded #8 and next years 2nd Rounder to GSW for #9, #40 and a future first round protected pick. Do you guys think this is too much of Zeke to ask for? With this deal the Knicks can take Bynum, I'd be happy taking him over Taft if the Knicks were able to get a few picks out of the deal. After these workouts, especially the one that Briggs posted above, the more I think Bynum should probably the guy that Isiah picks.

to trade down one slot for a guy they know we don't want? I think we could get a second round pick at most.

Who says Isiah doesn't want him? If Isiah makes it clear that he will take him at 8 then GS might think about the deal I proposed.

I still think Taft will an excellent pro and I'd take him in a second but when you have the ability to still take a 7'0 18 year old center then the downside to not drafting Taft isnt that bad. I never heard Isiah say he did not want Taft, matter of fact I havent heard him talk about ANYONE in this draft.

[Edited by - nyk4ever on 05/25/2005 17:32:07]

I want to hear what Bynum and Blatche do in the actual workouts before I give a final conclusion. Right now I am of the strong opinion that IF, and that is IF, IF both Bynum and Blatche look real swell in their workouts, that we formulate a strategy to grab BOTH guys for the future 5-4. We have some nice leverage at 8, I really believe that. If they made the determiantion that Blatche will really be a player, I would concentrate on pick 13 with Charlotte with Pick 30, do what I had to do, if I had to buy pick 19 and package both for 13 etc.. I would do a lot to package to 7 footers together for the long term IF IF IF they show it. this shows a path, this shows a road.

really saying

crawford kt tt ariza for blah artes blah balh isnt anything more than a flipping retreaded vet deal. Show me a path here, show me something, show me that there is atleast a goal of a chamionship path.
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5/25/2005  7:30 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by crzymdups:
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by rain:

fishmike... trade down and take one of the two? Or stay where we are?

Not a bad idea Rain. I've read on ESPN Insider that Golden State is extremely high on Taft and they want him. What if Isiah traded #8 and next years 2nd Rounder to GSW for #9, #40 and a future first round protected pick. Do you guys think this is too much of Zeke to ask for? With this deal the Knicks can take Bynum, I'd be happy taking him over Taft if the Knicks were able to get a few picks out of the deal. After these workouts, especially the one that Briggs posted above, the more I think Bynum should probably the guy that Isiah picks.

to trade down one slot for a guy they know we don't want? I think we could get a second round pick at most.

Who says Isiah doesn't want him? If Isiah makes it clear that he will take him at 8 then GS might think about the deal I proposed.

I still think Taft will an excellent pro and I'd take him in a second but when you have the ability to still take a 7'0 18 year old center then the downside to not drafting Taft isnt that bad. I never heard Isiah say he did not want Taft, matter of fact I havent heard him talk about ANYONE in this draft.

[Edited by - nyk4ever on 05/25/2005 17:32:07]

I want to hear what Bynum and Blatche do in the actual workouts before I give a final conclusion. Right now I am of the strong opinion that IF, and that is IF, IF both Bynum and Blatche look real swell in their workouts, that we formulate a strategy to grab BOTH guys for the future 5-4. We have some nice leverage at 8, I really believe that. If they made the determiantion that Blatche will really be a player, I would concentrate on pick 13 with Charlotte with Pick 30, do what I had to do, if I had to buy pick 19 and package both for 13 etc.. I would do a lot to package to 7 footers together for the long term IF IF IF they show it. this shows a path, this shows a road.

really saying

crawford kt tt ariza for blah artes blah balh isnt anything more than a flipping retreaded vet deal. Show me a path here, show me something, show me that there is atleast a goal of a chamionship path.

I agree Briggs, the Knicks have alot of leverage at 8 and there is a number of teams that would love to move up and grab Taft or Webster. Like I said before, I still like Taft and I really wouldn't mind Zeke drafting him but here is another scenario for the Knicks to look at. I think now the best idea for the Knicks is to use #8 as leverage. Lets say Bynum and Blatche workout pretty well and Isiah is interested in trading #8 to obtain more picks so he can take the both of them. I think the this could potentially workout really well for Zeke because it would give the Knicks a great frountcourt future too look forward too and if this is the case I would hope that WHOEVER the coach is next year brings in Big Pat to mentor these young guns if we can land them. Heres a scenario I drew up, tell me what you think.

Knicks trade with Golden State, who is enamoured with Taft. Zeke makes GS believe he will select Taft if no trade is done.
Knicks Trade:#8 pick, and 2006 2nd Rounder or even 2006 1st Rounder they obtained from the Spurs in the Nazr deal; becuase with the impending age-limit the draft is going to really lose alot of depth and the Spurs will be good so the pick will be late.
Knicks Recieve:#9 pick, #40 pick, future lotto protected first rounder

Now, stay with me here

Knicks trade with Memphis, who reportedly are interested in trading away their pick

Knicks Trade: #40 pick obtained from GS, pick #54 and a future first round lotto protected pick...... if they have to include this years #30 instead of #40 then fine, Zeke does it but then you take away the future first round consideration
Knicks Recieve:Pick #19

Now after all this the Knicks will have picks 9, 19, and 30 in the first round of this years draft. At #9 Zeke can take Bynum, at #19 Zeke can take Blatche and at #30 or #40 Zeke can take whomever the best player is available. What do you guys think?


[Edited by - nyk4ever on 05/25/2005 20:49:35]
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5/25/2005  8:40 PM
Why do all that why don't we just buy the #19 from memphis?

Take taft at 8, blatche at 19 and BPA at 30 and call it a day.
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5/25/2005  8:44 PM
I dont think Memphis is just going to sell their pick. What would be the point, they might as well trade for a future pick or 2nd rounders that they can trade in the future instead of just buying a pick. Has anyone even ever just bought a pick before?
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5/25/2005  8:58 PM
I don't think Golden State will go through all that trouble to get Taft. They'll just take Bynum, Blatche or Frye. They need a center more anyway. They already have Murphy who is a PF.

even if they want Taft to play Center and feel he is more ready than Bynum. I don't see them going through all that trouble just to get Taft. Unless Taft does really well when he workouts for them. But judging from the reports on Taft so far his size is tremendous, Nene like and he's really strong defensively and can possibly block 2 per game at 6'10 but his offensive needs seasoning.

Bynum has looked really impressive so far in workouts both psychically and his skills in the paint and a nice jumper. Deep down I think Bynum will go in the top 7 but if he's there for us we HAVE to take him! With his body he can have a close to Amare like impact.



[Edited by - gunsnewing on 05/25/2005 21:16:43]
update on Bynum, just posted on Uconn Insider

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