If you are to entertain trading the #1 pick in the draft, here are some scenarios that I think make some sense, since I don't believe Bogut to be a Tim D, franchise talent (I do like him but I don't see him as a perrenial all-star the way many do).

here are some scenarios that make sense for us:

Scenario 1
Knicks trade the #1 + next years first rounder + Sweets and maybe cash for Emeka and their #3 pick or something like that? You have to do that, and get Emeka AND Green!! Maybe you could convince the bobcats that Bogut is a franchise talent and Okafor is just gonna be a good player, but not a franchise carrier (which i believe to be true about okafor although I love him). It's possible!!

Scenario 2
since NY and Charlotte both have 2 first rounders, we swap both picks so know we have the #3 and the #13 and they have the #1 and #30. It depends on how much they (and we) value Bogut. If they think he is their franchise talent AND could get to play next to Okafor, they could look hard at it. We pick up green or Marvin Williams, and the best big available at #13. You gotta love that!

Scenario 3
We Swap for the lakers at #10 and give them our #30 on the condition that they trade us Lamar Odom and Caron Butler/Chris Mihm for Tim Thomas. Who would do that?

Scenario 4
Swap with the clippers at #12 in a trade for Elton Brand and Tim Thomas. If you can make a move like this you simply must do it. You will have a team with 2 all-stars still in their primes with still a late lottery pick in a deep draft.

These are moves to consider when you are the president of a team that is in a win now mode. You get an all-star but you still get younger with a lotto pick in all cases. It would probably be unprecedented, but the clippers seem most likely to do it, they have the cheapest franchise in all of sports. Bobcats may consider it, though its highly unlikely.

Something to think about.







[Edited by - Killa4luv on 05/20/2005 12:18:39]

I mean it all boils down to how much teams value the #1 pick, how good do they think Bogut will be?

Posted by BRIGGS:

where to these posts come from? from where do they orginate? is this bonn code B?

It's not me. It's just another smart poster considering all options.

As for the trades above, I really don't know enough about Bogut but it would be hard to resist a trade where we got Emeka and pick #3. Same with the Elton Brand trade, although the Okafor one is better.

[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 05/20/2005 08:36:53]

i think these kinds of posts are fun and i welcome them. But they're fantasy posts, they're not reality. Our chances of getting #1 coming form the 8th spot are so remote that we really are talking fantasy here. As is IMO any talk of Charlotte trading Okafor. A guy puts up 15 and 11 his first year in the league, he's the face of your franchise, a guy who led his college team to the national title and graduated in 3 years with a blowout GPA? If you trade this guy you deserve to have a doomed franchise forever.

If the knicks get a ticket to Fantasyland and get the #1, they better draft Bogut and forget the drama. THis isn't a Sam Bowie case, where the guy was severely injured in college and benefitted from playing next to another 7-footer who was arguably better than him before answering the dinner bell too often.

Posted by Marv:

i think these kinds of posts are fun and i welcome them. But they're fantasy posts, they're not reality. Our chances of getting #1 coming form the 8th spot are so remote that we really are talking fantasy here. As is IMO any talk of Charlotte trading Okafor. A guy puts up 15 and 11 his first year in the league, he's the face of your franchise, a guy who led his college team to the national title and graduated in 3 years with a blowout GPA? If you trade this guy you deserve to have a doomed franchise forever.

If the knicks get a ticket to Fantasyland and get the #1, they better draft Bogut and forget the drama. THis isn't a Sam Bowie case, where the guy was severely injured in college and benefitted from playing next to another 7-footer who was arguably better than him before answering the dinner bell too often.

forgive me if i read this wrong, but i though this post said trade pick 1 for emeka and what amounted to be marvin williams, because bogut was not supposed to be to good. that sounds a little weird no?
why on earth would charlotte trade emeka and marvin williams for anyone player? i wouldnt trade both for duncan


as for the 2nd tier guys like brand and lamar odom, no, no, no, no. give bogut a chance, hes going to be a superstar. there is a reason why he is at the top of every mock out there.

no way Charlotte trades an already proven young stud bigman like Emeka and the 3rd pick!

If we win the lottery we need to take Bogut. I don't even see how that's debatable. And I'd be willing to trade everybody and everything not nailed down or named Marbury if the right deal is offered. Even I wouldn't be willing to trade Bogut.

Bogut could be a dominant center. You don't trade him.

Posted by BRIGGS:

Posted by Killa4luv:

Posted by edsonline:

If we win the lottery we need to take Bogut. I don't even see how that's debatable. And I'd be willing to trade everybody and everything not nailed down or named Marbury if the right deal is offered. Even I wouldn't be willing to trade Bogut.

So what you're saying is you wouldn't trade Bogut for Green and Warrick/Petro/Blatche/Bynum? Becaus escenario 2 could easily become that?

Why would you want to trade Bogut? I cant believe people who have watched him would want to tade him? He's got post moves like Kevin Mchale, he rebounds like Kevin garnet and he passes like sabonis. Hes got a great frame 7-1 245 long arms noce touch, hes a fiery leader, hes only 20. Ive already said I wouldnt trade him for KG, so you can gander how much i like him.

WOW! You are really reaching.Mchale? Garnet? Sabonis? Why don't you petition for him to be inducted into the Hall of Fame? With all of these phenomenal skills, actually playing well is merely a formality.