We have a chance at drafting a 7'1 290 AND the kid IS ONLY 17. This kid is still growing and at that young age, he will not be disciplined enough to manage his work ethic and nutrition....given the way Sweet has balooned up under the supervision of whomever our strength conditioning coach, I don't know if he really is a qualified professional to guide a big dude like Bynum.

Ariza and Crawff are still very skinny; Sweet, JB, and even Mo T are overweight. Can someone please tell me who the strength personnel is and his credential??? Because he is doing a lousy job. TT used to be a very agile young player, but a full season under this guy's supervision, TT looked like he lost his agility. Marb used to be able to dunk the ball, but now, he probably can't even touch the rim; Houston used to be able to shoot and play at least 70 games, but now he can't even play more than 20 games....Something is really wrong with whomever is responsible to strengthening/conditioning/and dieting for our ball club....He needs to be fired and we need to bring a really qualified person to manage this vital area of our ball club. A well conditioned team goes very far in the playoffs, look at Detroit...

Our boys are not well conditioned and it shows in our 4th quarter results...How many game we have lost in the 4th?????? Exactly..... Tell me that I am wrong.....



[Edited by - diderotn on 05/17/2005 11:21:35]

No wonder...

Look here, tell me that I am wrong. I have compared the Knicks coaching's staff to the Heats, no where on our list, I see a strength and conditioning trainer. But, when you look at the Heat's, which we all know how much Pat Riley value conditioning, you can clearly find the name of the particular individual that handles that duty. Isiah has made many changes in N.Y, but this needs to be the biggest change as far as I am concerned. When you have young players in a city like N.Y., especially young millionaires, you have to cover all the bases. We have a code of conduct, a code of dressing, where is the code of strength and conditioning??????


Knicks Medical Staff
Director, Player Care Dr. Lisa Callahan
Assistant to the Director of Player Care Mike Saunders
Team Orthopedist Dr. Norman Scott
Team Orthopedist Dr. Fred Cushner
Team Dentist Dr. George Bergofin
HEAD COACH Herb Williams (College - Ohio State '81)
ASSISTANT COACHES Brendan Suhr
Mark Aguirre (College - DePaul '82)
George Glymph (College - Benedict '65)
Michael Malone (College - Loyola (MD) '94)
Greg Brittenham (College - Nebraska-Kearney '80)
ATHLETIC TRAINER Mike Saunders (College - NYU '77)
ASSISTANT TRAINER Anthony Goenaga

C - Captain
* - on injured list

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Miami Heat
HEAD COACH Stan Van Gundy (College - SUNY-Brockport '81)
ASSISTANT COACHES Keith Askins (College - Alabama '90)
Bob McAdoo (College - North Carolina '73)
Erik Spoelstra (College - Portland '92)
Ron Rothstein (College - Rhode Island '64)
STRENGTH-AND-CONDITIONING COACH Bill Foran (College - Central Michigan '77)
ATHLETIC TRAINER Ron Culp (College - Bowling Green '68)
ASSISTANT TRAINER Jay Sabol (College - Florida International '92)

C - Captain
* - on injured list

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Here is Phoenix a very welly conditioned team..

HEAD COACH Mike D'Antoni (College - Marshall '73)
ASSISTANT COACHES Todd Quinter
Marc Iavaroni (College - Virginia '78)
Phil Weber (College - North Carolina State '84)
Alvin Gentry (College - Appalachian State '77)
STRENGTH-AND-CONDITIONING COACH Erik Phillips (College - Colorado State '98)
ATHLETIC TRAINER Aaron Nelson (College - Iowa State '92)
ASSISTANT TRAINER Mike Elliott

C - Captain
* - on injured list

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all of the well conditioned teams in the NBA have a strenth and conditioning coach....Here is the dude responsible for keeping Denver well conditioned...

Steve Hess
College - Ithaca '91


Keeping the Nuggets in top physical shape is the job of Steve Hess, the team’s strength and conditioning coach. He oversees the team’s weight training, conditioning, stretching and nutritional programs. Hess designed and arranged the Nuggets’ sparkling new weightroom in the Pepsi Center. He also designed functional pieces unique to the Denver Nuggets.
In his eighth season with the Nuggets, Hess creates and administers individual workout programs for each player throughout the entire year. He spends the majority of the off-season working with the Nuggets players as well as other professional athletes, overseeing every aspect of their workout programs. He pushes them to reach their peak physical condition.



Knicks needs to get with the program. If looking at Sweetney, JB, Mo, Ariza, and Crawfford is not a good enough reason to have a strength and conditioning position specially created for our team, Isiah is not worthy of the GM position. I don't even think that he would cost the team much to do so....$80.000 a year could save the organization a whole lot of money...look at how much we are paying Houston to warm up a sit and look pretty....

Dude! sometimes all it takes is a change of voice...trainers just like players do get complaisant. I am an ex-soldier, I have been is situation similar before. having soldiers or running a squad or platoon is similar to running a sport squad....Trust me, you will be surprised how easy it is to have an unfit group....a shake up is necessary in that department...fire who ever is there now and hire some fresh blood, because what we have is no longer potent..

Posted by fishmike:

Brittenham and Saunders. The same slackers that trained Starks, Mason, Oakley, Ewing and co.

Remember how the Knicks would beat you EVERY 4th qtr because they always seemed to have more in the tank? Was the the coaches or the players will to work hard. Hmmm....

Ever hear the expression you cant squeeze blood from a stone?

[Edited by - diderotn on 05/17/2005 11:36:24]

Posted by diderotn:

exactly, he has been there for 27 years....he is no longer potent...replace him.. This doesn't sound well in my ears at all. you don't live in the same old house or drive the same old car or eat the same food, or wear the same old clothes....Change is good...[Edited by - diderotn on 05/17/2005 11:49:21]

What are your views on marriage?

Marriage????? Ask any married couple if the fire is the same as when they just got together. Look, we don't have to fire the dude, we just have to find him a different position....bring in fresh blood that will bring in fresh idea. just like when you first get married, you used to do the sex thing every night, but at some point, all of that have disappeared. However, you still can find other ways to enjoy eachother's company. Hey, I might have used the wrong analogy, but you all can understand what I am trying to say. Fresh blood is a good thing. create a position and name is exactly what it should be named (Strength and conditioning trainer) and hold whomever in that position accountable to the fitness of our boys. There is no reason why Sweetney a young cat should be overweight or better yet, there is no reason why Ariza or Crawfford to be as frail as they are.....

Posted by fishmike:

Posted by Marv:

Posted by diderotn:

exactly, he has been there for 27 years....he is no longer potent...replace him.. This doesn't sound well in my ears at all. you don't live in the same old house or drive the same old car or eat the same food, or wear the same old clothes....Change is good...[Edited by - diderotn on 05/17/2005 11:49:21]

What are your views on marriage?

classic

[Edited by - diderotn on 05/17/2005 13:23:26]

sweetney's is ben and jerry...

This thread is only getting better and better. It has truly "made my day."

Dude! you are off the chain

Posted by Nalod:

[quote]
Posted by diderotn:

Marriage????? Ask any married couple if the fire is the same as when they just got together. Look, we don't have to fire the dude, we just have to find him a different position....bring in fresh blood that will bring in fresh idea. just like when you first get married, you used to do the sex thing every night, but at some point, all of that have disappeared. However, you still can find other ways to enjoy eachother's company. Hey, I might have used the wrong analogy, but you all can understand what I am trying to say. Fresh blood is a good thing. [quote]

Im speechless!

First of all, these guys are seven figure professionals. Its pathetic they would need some new blood to motivatethem to be inshape.

We are not talking bout a drill sargent, we talkin about guys whom are supposted ot be at the top of their profession.

If they are "tired of listening to the same trainer" and thats the reason they are "tired" then they are the most pathetic group of spoiled rotten paid athletes and Isiah should be fired the spot for bringing in such a soft group of overpaid mental midgets!

Now motivation to have sex with my wife may wain over the years, but im not being paid to service my women. Its not my job, its not my profession. IM not a gigilo! But pay me enough money, Ill do every women in the neighborhood and make them smile all day! Ill be the pied piper dropping loads door to door!

Its going to cost more than 80,000 for a full time personal trainer especially the type of trainer we are looking for. Your looking at min of 150,000 which is a small price to pay....

It should be plain and simple in the contract if you are not in top physical condition you are fined until your reach it

Part of getting into foul trouble is not having the lateral movement to beat his man to a spot on the floor....

Also having the lift in your legs is crucial and losing 15-20 pounds would really make a significant impact to his game.