You have to be kidding me, looking at our roster, the biggest problem we have had since the departure of Ewing has been size. with the 8th pick a couple of seasons ago, we drafted an overweight undersize player in Sweetney who I still like. Last season, Isiah did what he could with what he had and picked an excellent young man in Reezzy. With our first pick this season, we have to address the center spot. I know that a lot of you are googoo about Warrick, but at his size, he will not be able to address our needs right away. We need to draft Centers to come in and learn on the fly. a lot of teams have tried that phylosophy and it has worked for them, why not the KNicks. We already have guards and many PFs, but how many centers do we have???? Phuk the guards for now, address our needs. There are too many big men on this draft that could potentially be super-stars in no time, it would be foolish not to pick at least two of them.....

Kindale, Bynum, and other 7's not named Boggut are still at our reach, we have to address all of the question marks....

I am with you 100% - I see a lot of complaining that we need another PG, SG, and SF. No way - we need a CENTER first. Believe it or not I think the complimentary players are already here - with a big dominant center this team would win. But without one they will suck.

Posted by MaTT4281:

We have to draft the best player available, regardless of position. That's what draft day trades are for, if you can't find the player you want, draft and package him later.
What we really can't afford is another Weis over Artest ordeal.
If somehow, someone like Green drops, you simply can't pass up on him because he's under 6'10.

exactly. i can't believe this is still a debate. take the best player available.

back in the draft when olajuwon went #1, portland had the next pick and michael jordan was still out there. they say they need a center and pick sam bowie. forget who exactly it was, but some coach or scout said, "if you need a center, pick jordan and play him at center." best player available, then you have all summer to balance the roster. don't reach for a big guy just because he's 7' tall.

Get real. A fixation on size contributed to drafting Freddie Weis over Ron Artest.

BPA! Learn it, live it.

We're a center away from contending if the center we're drafting is Shaq!

Posted by Allanfan20:

If Bogut isn't available for us, the only 7 footer I am interested in is Andrew Bynum, and that is for the future/long run. He's not a now player. Other than him, guys that I am interested in are Green, Webster and Hakim Warrick. None of the other big guys like Tiago Splitter, from what I hear, don't really seem to be NBA players. Just ask DarkKnicks, b/c most of the really tall guys are in Europe, and he pays attention to those dudes.

I would definitely like to trade for a pick in the mid teens though. If we can use that to grab either Warrick or Webster, and take Bynum with the 8th, this will be a GREAT draft.

What do do you think of the 6'10 260 talented Taft?

Posted by gunsnewing:

Posted by Allanfan20:

If Bogut isn't available for us, the only 7 footer I am interested in is Andrew Bynum, and that is for the future/long run. He's not a now player. Other than him, guys that I am interested in are Green, Webster and Hakim Warrick. None of the other big guys like Tiago Splitter, from what I hear, don't really seem to be NBA players. Just ask DarkKnicks, b/c most of the really tall guys are in Europe, and he pays attention to those dudes.

I would definitely like to trade for a pick in the mid teens though. If we can use that to grab either Warrick or Webster, and take Bynum with the 8th, this will be a GREAT draft.

What do do you think of the 6'10 260 talented Taft?

I think alot of people are sleeping on Taft. He didnt get the ball alot at Pittsburgh. Has a NBA body and athleticism. Zeke should draft taft with #8 pick. Marbury made Mohammed look like a allstar just Imagine what him and Taft can do!!!

Listen, like all of you I would love for the Knicks to pick the best player available. However, the problem is that we already have a load of bodies that we don't need, but we can't get rid of them because of the salary or contract that they have. Therefore, to be on the safe side, we have to draft for our needs. With drafting for our needs, it will buy us time until we can shed the bad contracts off of our roster. Drafting for our need is the wisest thing to do for now. Think about it, Marburry, Crawfford, Ariza, Sweetney are all players that we can get some good production out of. Worst comes worst, we can still get production out of JYD, Rose, and others if need be. However, the center position which has been our cancer will still be an issue. Especially if we draft another PF or SF that won't even see any playing time. Now, if Green is still available at 8, we have to draft him, but in my opinion, he is the only player shorter than 6'10" that I would draft early. We have to draft smartly, at least until we can get rid of Houston, Kurt, Penny, and TT

There you all go again with that Amare or Ben Wallace argument. Amare has a lot of good shooters around him to stretch the field for him to operate. We don't even have one player that can shoot the ball and score consistantly. The only guy that could do that has been on the shelves for the last two seasons. You are talking about two different teams when it comes to Amare with Phoenix and our moribons Knicks. Don't get fool by what Amare has done in this league. I would say draft for talents if and only if we had the pieces necessary, I.E. shootersss that can score the ball consistantly. Marburry, Crawf, TT, and others are not great shooters...With the talents we have around, if we draft a Center, we can maximize what they can offer with good coaching....

Knicks and Phoenix are two different teams. Their makeup are very different....

Dude! what in the hell are you talking about. No one is saying that Amare is not the man, all I am saying is that Amare can't create for himself at this point. He is only effective because other team defense have to account for Joe Johnson, Nash, Marion and Q as excellent shooters. You have to pick your poison when playing Phoenix, but with N.Y, all you have to do is contain Marburry, because unless Crawff is having one of the few nights where he is shooting the ball very well, we have no other threats......

Posted by franco12:

Posted by diderotn:

There you all go again with that Amare or Ben Wallace argument. Amare has a lot of good shooters around him to stretch the field for him to operate. We don't even have one player that can shoot the ball and score consistantly. The only guy that could do that has been on the shelves for the last two seasons. You are talking about two different teams when it comes to Amare with Phoenix and our moribons Knicks. Don't get fool by what Amare has done in this league. I would say draft for talents if and only if we had the pieces necessary, I.E. shootersss that can score the ball consistantly. Marburry, Crawf, TT, and others are not great shooters...With the talents we have around, if we draft a Center, we can maximize what they can offer with good coaching....

Knicks and Phoenix are two different teams. Their makeup are very different....

Yeah, I've been watching Amare real close here in the playoffs and he's a stiff. He's weak, slow and has terrible hands. Its a good thing they have the shooters there to cover that up.

I mean, if we had amare on this team, its not like he'd be good or anything.

Incorrect, you have to draft for needs, especially if chances are that you can find a decent PG through FA or the draft. PGs don't win championships by themselves. The league has a drought for Centers, especially N.Y. We already have some components on our roster that could be far more effective if we can find a big man that can do two things: shot blocking and rebound. We don't need anyone to come in and score 20 points, if that is the case, than it will be a bonus. However a team like N.Y. who can defend no body, we have to have a shot blocker that can instill fear in the mind of the opponent. Hey, after next season, once the expiring contracts are no longer around, and once we have vaccancies at some positions other than center, I will have no problem with drafting the best player available. Again, I wouldn't pass on a Green or Boggut, but all of the other names are not worth it

Posted by franco12:

my point is if we got to pick between Amare and Dampier, the blanket statement that you have to pick no one smaller than 6'10" leads you to pick the tall stiff.

If we're picking 8 and the best player is a 6'1" pg a la Nash and there's some big tall stiff available like Kwame Brown, sorry, I'll see if I can play a small back court next year and try to address size later.

Now, Pick 30 is a different story. Pick a big there- and it is too bad that that pick is at the end and not middle- because I'm happy to roll the dice with a pick around 15-18, not 8.