Take it for what its worth since its Mitch Lawrence. But this is what he had to say about Hakim.

"The Knicks came away unimpressed from Hakim Warrick's workout. They were astounded at the ex-Syracuse star's poor level of conditioning and also wondered what he can do other than dunk and run the floor."

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/story/309599p-264954c.html

maybe it's just a smoke screen

Posted by s3231:

Take it for what its worth since its Mitch Lawrence. But this is what he had to say about Hakim.

"The Knicks came away unimpressed from Hakim Warrick's workout. They were astounded at the ex-Syracuse star's poor level of conditioning and also wondered what he can do other than dunk and run the floor."

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/story/309599p-264954c.html

if he has to play the 3 in the pros, he hasnt shown 3 abilities. People have been saying Tayshaun Prince, but Prince was the complete opposite player. he was permiter based at Kentucky, while Hakim is inside, and rarely out. I dont think conditioning is a big detrimant, anyone can work hard on conditioning and get it right reasonable fast at that age. and just because the knicks *may* have said this, doesnt mean Hakim wont find his niche somewhere that makes more sense.
Mike Sweetney graded out very poorly in the workouts, but the bottom line is Mike is a good basketball player and if he can find a balance of that keeps his size around 260 instead of 275-280 and increases his strength and fundamentals, he should be a fine player for a long time. Heck he did go 8.2 5.4 53% this season in 19 minutes. Id like to see his position as a 25 minute 6 or 7th guy type, where he could average 10-12 points 7-8 rebounds +50% off the bench. you need guys like that of the bench, who can step in and start if needed and you wont lose a beat.

Posted by Allanfan20:

BTW, very interesting read on the Webber/Iverson part.

Yea that caught my eye. Looks like the Sixers could have some trouble.

Posted by Allanfan20:

It's not that. Webber is injured but he has some major adjustments to make. The Kings were his team and he's clearly still used to being the main man. He's not the main man anymore, and maybe he shouldn't be with his age and health. It's gonna take time for him to adjust. This is Iversons team.

I agree with everything you just said. When I said the Sixers could have some trouble, I meant that you don't want your second best player on the team saying things like that especially since there aren't many teams that will want him if you have to trade him.

Posted by Caseloads:

maybe it's just a smoke screen

My thoughts exactly. Only a fool telegraphs their punch at this time of year, for example, Ernie Accorsi, before Tom Coughlin brought discipline to the Giants.

until otherwise, those dumb writers have been more accurate in the last few years than any of us.

They bash the team, we hopefully disagree, then it proves more true than we would like.

If warrick did not blow us away, so be it!

Be interesting to see where he really lands.

I have thought all along that Hakim Warrick is the most NBA ready player in this draft. I watch a ton of college basketball and I know for a fact that Warrick is going to excel in the NBA and probably quicker then most of the players that are picked before him especially if he gets in a system like the Suns or the Nets run, they guy will be absolutely lethal. I really wish that Isiah could somehow pickup another pick in the 10-13 range and that he can take Hakim there after drafting either Bynum/Greene/Taft at 8.

I'm pretty sure that either the person did not know what they were talking about when they wrote this article or it's just a smoke-screen to get people off the Warrick bandwagon becuase last I heard he was really climbing up alot of teams draft boards. I agree with Matt said too, its the NY media.. whose going to believe it anyway?

Posted by gunsnewing:

Posted by nyk4ever:

I have thought all along that Hakim Warrick is the most NBA ready player in this draft. I watch a ton of college basketball and I know for a fact that Warrick is going to excel in the NBA and probably quicker then most of the players that are picked before him especially if he gets in a system like the Suns or the Nets run, they guy will be absolutely lethal. I really wish that Isiah could somehow pickup another pick in the 10-13 range and that he can take Hakim there after drafting either Bynum/Greene/Taft at 8.

I'm pretty sure that either the person did not know what they were talking about when they wrote this article or it's just a smoke-screen to get people off the Warrick bandwagon becuase last I heard he was really climbing up alot of teams draft boards. I agree with Matt said too, its the NY media.. whose going to believe it anyway?

hey Rob since we're talking about SF's I know you also like Joey Graham. Who do you think has more star potential Warrick, Granger or Graham? I warming up to Granger since he has a nice inside/outside game, kinda like Pierce. This article albeit who knows if its true has makes me wonder what level a pro Warrick will be. We need potential allstars not more role players like Tayshaun Prince. If Warrick can even be as good as Prince.

The only way I would love to have either of these guys is like you said if we draft Green, Bynum or Taft first.

Cmon man you've watched enough Syracuse games to know what Warrick is all about and should NOT have YOUR opinion changed by an article that someone else wrote. I like Graham alot actually, I see him and Granger having very good careers in the NBA, Granger might be a bit better in the end but I think Warrick is going to be the best pro out of the 3. The only knock on Warrick's game is shooting ability and you have to know that he is going to be working on that all offseason to the point where he will be a pretty decent shooter by the team next season rolls around. The only guy out of these 3 that I personally can justify taking at pick 8 though is Warrick, I really thinkg he's going to have a Richard Jefferson type first 2 years then in his third year just explode as his shot gets better and better.

Posted by gunsnewing:

Posted by nyk4ever:

Posted by gunsnewing:

Posted by nyk4ever:

I have thought all along that Hakim Warrick is the most NBA ready player in this draft. I watch a ton of college basketball and I know for a fact that Warrick is going to excel in the NBA and probably quicker then most of the players that are picked before him especially if he gets in a system like the Suns or the Nets run, they guy will be absolutely lethal. I really wish that Isiah could somehow pickup another pick in the 10-13 range and that he can take Hakim there after drafting either Bynum/Greene/Taft at 8.

I'm pretty sure that either the person did not know what they were talking about when they wrote this article or it's just a smoke-screen to get people off the Warrick bandwagon becuase last I heard he was really climbing up alot of teams draft boards. I agree with Matt said too, its the NY media.. whose going to believe it anyway?

hey Rob since we're talking about SF's I know you also like Joey Graham. Who do you think has more star potential Warrick, Granger or Graham? I warming up to Granger since he has a nice inside/outside game, kinda like Pierce. This article albeit who knows if its true has makes me wonder what level a pro Warrick will be. We need potential allstars not more role players like Tayshaun Prince. If Warrick can even be as good as Prince.

The only way I would love to have either of these guys is like you said if we draft Green, Bynum or Taft first.

Cmon man you've watched enough Syracuse games to know what Warrick is all about and should NOT have YOUR opinion changed by an article that someone else wrote. I like Graham alot actually, I see him and Granger having very good careers in the NBA, Granger might be a bit better in the end but I think Warrick is going to be the best pro out of the 3. The only knock on Warrick's game is shooting ability and you have to know that he is going to be working on that all offseason to the point where he will be a pretty decent shooter by the team next season rolls around. The only guy out of these 3 that I personally can justify taking at pick 8 though is Warrick, I really thinkg he's going to have a Richard Jefferson type first 2 years then in his third year just explode as his shot gets better and better.

fair enough but Richard Jefferson wasn't between 190-215LBS and he's a perimeter defender whereas Warrick played defense against frontcourts in college. At 215LBS can Warrick defend in the NBA? He should be fine as a weakside defender. He put up lots of impressive 20 & 10 games in college so maybe he can have a Jefferson like 3rd season but I think realistically he's going to be a solid intangible role player and we really don't need that with Rose and JYD already on the team.

If Isiah drafts Warrick I won't complain but until then the only guy under 6-10 who I'm considering is Gerald Green. I really want with him Bynum, Taft, Webster since I think those are the 4 with the most star potential who might be available. If somehow all 4 are gone than I would have a really tough time choose between Webster, Warrick, Splitter, McCants and possibly Blatche. If we can add another 1st round pick and draft one of these guys I will be thrilled MAN!

I'd love to add another pick in the 10-15range so we Zeke has the ability to go after a guy like McCants if he takes Taft or Bynum with pick #8 as well but back to Warrick. I don't think weight has anything to do with guarding guys, look at players like Reggie Miller and Larry Hughes they are both skinny as a rail and night and night out defend guys that are 10 pounds heavier then them, I really think your reaching with this weight thing. I remember when Uconn and Syrcuse played this year, Warrick would take his shots on Rudy Gay who is about as athletic as they come and he would hold is own against him so I don't think he's going to have any problems in the NBA playing defense as a 3 or 4, just because he played interior defense for the most part in college doesnt mean anything. He has superior athleticism that will allow him to guard 3's in the NBA.

I'd love to add another pick in the 10-15range so we Zeke has the ability to go after a guy like McCants if he takes Taft or Bynum with pick #8 as well but back to Warrick. I don't think weight has anything to do with guarding guys, look at players like Reggie Miller and Larry Hughes they are both skinny as a rail and night and night out defend guys that are 10 pounds heavier then them, I really think your reaching with this weight thing. I remember when Uconn and Syrcuse played this year, Warrick would take his shots on Rudy Gay who is about as athletic as they come and he would hold is own against him so I don't think he's going to have any problems in the NBA playing defense as a 3 or 4, just because he played interior defense for the most part in college doesnt mean anything. He has superior athleticism that will allow him to guard 3's in the NBA.

thats true. He doesn't have to defend bigger PFs if he's going to be a SF in the NBA. The major question is will his shot progress. In order for him to be successful on the Knicks its going to have to progress tremendously because we need a star. Tayshaun Prince wouldn't have the same impact on the Knicks as he has on a stacked Detroit team but if Warrick can develop at the allstar level of Marion and Jefferson on both ends of the floor than he will help us by upgrading our talent level.

For some reason I just feel Bynum and Taft will not only upgrade our talent level but also give us the frontcourt players we so despererately need to have along with Marbury. I make an exception for Green because I really think he's going to be special.

I know we're both saying the same things but I really rather not waste our pick on another SF role player or another PG. But I would love to have one of these guys later on in the 1st round!