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diderotn
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4/26/2005  1:20 PM
Jared Jefferies is a player that Isiah should strongly consider. He is everything that TT isn't, and most of all, he has the smart of a reall baller. He sees the floor nicely, and does the dirty work. He had a pretty good year with D.C. this season, and the Wizz will not be able to re-sign him, especially if they want to keep Kwame and Haywood. He is long, the proto typical SF type, and crashes the boards with regularity....You want a good deal, here is one....
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4/26/2005  1:22 PM
he's what Ariza is pretty much...why do we need Jared Jefferies?

why use the MLE on a guy that we already have when our weakness is in the frontcourt? we need a shotblocker w/athleticism...Gadzuric is a much better option.
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4/26/2005  1:24 PM
He is a much better player than Ariza to tell you the truth. He can handle the ball, and Ariza can't. I am not asking to trade Ariza, but with JJ, we won't have a need for a SG. Both he and Ariza can play SF, but JJ is so versatile, he can play the point also.
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he's what Ariza is pretty much...why do we need Jared Jefferies?

why use the MLE on a guy that we already have when our weakness is in the frontcourt? we need a shotblocker w/athleticism...Gadzuric is a much better option.
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4/26/2005  1:28 PM
Ariza will be a better player than JJ next year...he's just about on the same level now, except JJ is a smarter player...that comes w/minutes...Ariza has alot more talent & upside imho.

JJ's a versatile player & i wouldn't mind having him, but it's not a smart move to use up the only means of signing a FA we have to us w/o addressing the obvious need for a shotblocker first.
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4/26/2005  1:33 PM
JJ is a beast man. I like Ariza, but there is no way that Ariza is a better player or similar to JJ. JJ is from a very excellent program, and the Knicks is definitely lacking in that department. Tell me one player from the Knicks who is from a great program? please don't say Sweetney, because GeorgeTown has been a bad program for a while now.
Posted by TMS:

Ariza will be a better player than JJ next year...he's just about on the same level now, except JJ is a smarter player...that comes w/minutes...Ariza has alot more talent & upside imho.

JJ's a versatile player & i wouldn't mind having him, but it's not a smart move to use up the only means of signing a FA we have to us w/o addressing the obvious need for a shotblocker first.
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4/26/2005  1:37 PM
Posted by TMS:

Ariza will be a better player than JJ next year...he's just about on the same level now, except JJ is a smarter player...that comes w/minutes...Ariza has alot more talent & upside imho.

JJ's a versatile player & i wouldn't mind having him, but it's not a smart move to use up the only means of signing a FA we have to us w/o addressing the obvious need for a shotblocker first.

yea I like JJ, I said in another thread I rather have JJ than big azz bobby simmons, but you are right ariza is 3 years younger and has more upside than JJ, we need to let ariza just develop..
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4/26/2005  1:40 PM
You have misunderstood what I am asking for. I am not asking to trade Ariza, I am simply asking to bring in JJ to complement the SF/SG position. TT will be gone by mid-season, Ariza and JJ could split time at SF, and JJ can earn time playing POINT Foward and SG..

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Posted by TMS:

Ariza will be a better player than JJ next year...he's just about on the same level now, except JJ is a smarter player...that comes w/minutes...Ariza has alot more talent & upside imho.

JJ's a versatile player & i wouldn't mind having him, but it's not a smart move to use up the only means of signing a FA we have to us w/o addressing the obvious need for a shotblocker first.

yea I like JJ, I said in another thread I rather have JJ than big azz bobby simmons, but you are right ariza is 3 years younger and has more upside than JJ, we need to let ariza just develop..
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4/26/2005  1:45 PM
Posted by diderotn:

He is a much better player than Ariza to tell you the truth. He can handle the ball, and Ariza can't. I am not asking to trade Ariza, but with JJ, we won't have a need for a SG. Both he and Ariza can play SF, but JJ is so versatile, he can play the point also.
Posted by TMS:

he's what Ariza is pretty much...why do we need Jared Jefferies?

why use the MLE on a guy that we already have when our weakness is in the frontcourt? we need a shotblocker w/athleticism...Gadzuric is a much better option.
I disagree with that, Ariza use to play point while in HS. He can be use as a point forward, like Herb used him in the summer league. He has great passing ability and he can handle the ball. JJ is a real good talent but He has years over Ariza, that's all. Also, Aquire thinks Ariza is still growing too. I was impressed with Ariza defensive abilities (the best was the block on Shaq because Ariza was just helping out on a quick recovery). Ariza just needs playing time. I would like to see Aguire and Mike Malone run the summer league team this year.
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4/26/2005  2:06 PM
I've never seen anything from Jefferies to make me want him. I'd rather get Kwame, honestly.
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4/26/2005  2:09 PM
Oh no, not Kwame......Don't over estimate the fact that this dude is from a big program...He has been in big games and believe it or not, that counts.

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I've never seen anything from Jefferies to make me want him. I'd rather get Kwame, honestly.
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4/26/2005  2:11 PM
Posted by diderotn:

Oh no, not Kwame......Don't over estimate the fact that this dude is from a big program...He has been in big games and believe it or not, that counts.

Posted by crzymdups:

I've never seen anything from Jefferies to make me want him. I'd rather get Kwame, honestly.

isn't he from Maryland? I mean they played some big games in 02, but I'd hardly call it a good program. What have he or Wilcox done? Juan Dixon hasn't done much but he looks better than those guys right now.

edit: whoops, he's from Indiana. Eh. I don't respect Indiana anymore. North Carolina, Duke, Uconn, Arizona I respect as big time programs that teach kids how to play and get them on a good training program.

[Edited by - crzymdups on 04/26/2005 14:12:41]
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4/26/2005  2:27 PM
No, he is from a different program. Dixon is from Maryland

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Posted by diderotn:

Oh no, not Kwame......Don't over estimate the fact that this dude is from a big program...He has been in big games and believe it or not, that counts.

Posted by crzymdups:

I've never seen anything from Jefferies to make me want him. I'd rather get Kwame, honestly.

isn't he from Maryland? I mean they played some big games in 02, but I'd hardly call it a good program. What have he or Wilcox done? Juan Dixon hasn't done much but he looks better than those guys right now.

edit: whoops, he's from Indiana. Eh. I don't respect Indiana anymore. North Carolina, Duke, Uconn, Arizona I respect as big time programs that teach kids how to play and get them on a good training program.

[Edited by - crzymdups on 04/26/2005 14:12:41]
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4/26/2005  2:44 PM
worry about getting an athletic shotblocker who can play C for us before we worry about guys like JJ...that's my point.
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4/26/2005  2:44 PM
Dynomite! JJ walker!

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Thats the JJ we need!
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4/26/2005  2:59 PM
our #1 offseason target

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4/26/2005  3:33 PM
Thanks man! You did it for me!

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4/26/2005  4:12 PM
Thelma! she was 1 hot mama back in those days.

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