Point 1: Will happen cause Clippers didnt play him after Kaman got back. seems like they dont want him that bad. They might do the trade.
Point 2: This will be doable. KT is a very servicable PF that teams can use. He has a decent contract too. Mid round pick is fair for him.
Point 3: I dunno if sweets is that tradeable but we'll see.
Point 4: This one is weird cause Steph and Kobe both shoot like crazy. That would be a great back court. This one I am not that sure about.
Point 5: I like the draft picks.
Point 6 & 7: With a little bit of work they can both be a good back court.

If point 3 and 4 work out, that will be a great rebuilding plan. Works for me. I like the lineup. We can also trade Penny and TT's contracts at the trade deadline for whatever we need.

thats a poor man's detroit pistons lineup but the Lakers are not trading for Steph.

What team in their right mind would unless they are looking to dump Glen Robinson, mashburn, mcdyess type and add more of a star attraction like Marbury so that they sell tickets while rebuilding.

No team that is seriously thinking about contending for a championship like the Lakers are will trade for Marbury.

When all is said and done Marbury will be the main reason Phil Jackson doesn't coach this team unless they trade him to one of these teams who could use a star attaction and I'm not even sure if there is a team like that?????

Posted by joec32033:

Steph for Odom and Atkins

This one might work. As long as there is a chance this trade will happen, this rebuilding plan works.

Posted by gunsnewing:

thats a poor man's detroit pistons lineup but the Lakers are not trading for Steph.

What team in their right mind would unless they are looking to dump Glen Robinson, mashburn, mcdyess type and add more of a star attraction like Marbury so that they sell tickets while rebuilding.

No team that is seriously thinking about contending for a championship like the Lakers are will trade for Marbury.

When all is said and done Marbury will be the main reason Phil Jackson doesn't coach this team unless they trade him to one of these teams who could use a star attaction and I'm not even sure if there is a team like that?????

Guns I hear you, but Odom is a HUGE disappointment and right now LA is not contending for anything. You put Steph at the point, Kobe at the 2 and Caron at the 3, you have an almost indefensable perimeter that can run forever. You add whoever they sign to play PF or center and you got the showtime Lakers all over again. NVE, Eddie Jones and Cedric Ceballos would be a ver comparable team to this one except this one I pointed out would be much more dangerous.

Here is my reasoning. You put Kobe and Steph on the same team that is about 47 points, add Butler's 15 and you got about 63...That is at least another 30 points to go around between everyone else (on a conservative estimate of 93 points per). It's not like Steph only averages 3 assists per, he drops 8 dimes per for his career, he passes, I mean he averaged 8 drops here on a team with no true scoring option other than himself.

[Edited by - joec32033 on 04/25/2005 10:36:39]

Stephon averages 8 assists because he has the ball in his hands 100% of the time.

Maybe going to the Lakers and playing next to Kobe will make him look better and smarter but it can also be a disaster because Marbury is not a pass first PG.

He's not a good PG period he makes to many stupid decisions and has no court vision

Posted by Marv:

Posted by joec32033:

7-Move Craw to the point

This worries the hell out of me. I know we didn't exactly have a good year with Steph running the club and I know Craw had a few good assists game toward the end of the season but I'd feel real wary about him being our point.

It is a little weird but arent the Knicks used to having bad PG's. Also, this is why that draftpick for Jack and the Steph for Odom and Atkins comes in handy. Craw can learn man. He can learn. What say you?

I actually think its more realistic to feel good about Crawford as PG or 6th man than as our starting SG.

Crawford starting at PG for Chicago was their biggest problem last year but at least the postion suited his skinny frame and he gave teams fits.

the same way we hope he becomes a disciplined SG I would hope he learns to play the point guard position the right way. Right off the bat I know he has better court vision than Marbury. The same way he has to learn to take better shots because he's a good shooter I would say he needs to think more pass first because he has PG leadership potential.

I hope you guys are right but deep down I have major doubts. Early in the year i saw Steph just getting frustrated because so many of his passes inside were clunking off hands. I think he then resorted to always looking for KT first because that was the most reliable scoring option. He was pretty amazing finding KT but that play sucks after a while.

Did you guys watch the Wash game yesterday? I thought Larry Hughes played exactly the game that Craw should play. Hughes played a great driving and midrange shooting game. he has unnique talents that are very similar to Craw's. Hughes only had 1 assist, and it didn't matter because he was doing what was of most value to his team, socring 31 within the flow. If Craw would knock off the 3's and the aimless dribbling way outside, and play a mid-range and driving game, he's be incredibly valuable to this club. But running the point?? I'm open to being wrong, but right now I really don't see it.

Posted by Marv:

I hope you guys are right but deep down I have major doubts. Early in the year i saw Steph just getting frustrated because so many of his passes inside were clunking off hands. I think he then resorted to always looking for KT first because that was the most reliable scoring option. He was pretty amazing finding KT but that play sucks after a while.

Did you guys watch the Wash game yesterday? I thought Larry Hughes played exactly the game that Craw should play. Hughes played a great driving and midrange shooting game. he has unnique talents that are very similar to Craw's. Hughes only had 1 assist, and it didn't matter because he was doing what was of most value to his team, socring 31 within the flow. If Craw would knock off the 3's and the aimless dribbling way outside, and play a mid-range and driving game, he's be incredibly valuable to this club. But running the point?? I'm open to being wrong, but right now I really don't see it.

If Craw transformed his game to Hughes' game, there would be no discussion he wouls be our 2 guard, but he doesn't even consider himself a 2 guard, which is a problem. Larry always considered himself a 2 and hated playing the point, which is the exact opposite of Craw.