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Bonn1997
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4/21/2005  8:55 AM
Boston knew that the winner of their game against NJ would determine whether NJ or Cleveland made the playoffs, but they barely played their starters. I know you could say that who makes it with the 8th seed isn't their concern; just being healthy for the playoffs is. But doesn't Boston have a responsibility to try to win games or to at least try as hard to beat NJ as they tried to win each time they played Cleveland? (They did give their starters regular minutes each time they played Cleveland.)
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4/21/2005  9:01 AM
No. They can do whatever they want to prepare themselves for the playoffs.
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4/21/2005  9:29 AM
I didn't watch the game, but it looks like boston sat their starters for most of the 3rd when the nets outscored them big

I'm surprised because I would have thought boston would have wanted to keep the nets out of the playoffs given their recent history
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4/21/2005  10:00 AM
Who cares? I don't. I don't give a damn about Cleveland, nor the Nets. I am a Knick and I am awefully pissed about my team right now..
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4/21/2005  10:04 AM
No. Boston was smart to rest their starters, just like how all the other locked up teams did. Phoenix rested their starters, the Wiz rested Gilbert and Hughes at the end. This was apre season game for Boston. They had an obligation to do nothing.
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4/21/2005  10:45 AM
Posted by Allanfan20:

No. Boston was smart to rest their starters, just like how all the other locked up teams did. Phoenix rested their starters, the Wiz rested Gilbert and Hughes at the end. This was apre season game for Boston. They had an obligation to do nothing.
I thought that according to legal policy, you have an obligation to try to win every game
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4/21/2005  10:53 AM
The Celts played Clevland the nite before. They used the same rotations and minutes played for the players that they did for the nets. Doc tanked the last two games fair and square yielding wins for both opponents.

Clevelenad went 11-29 to finish the 2nd half of the season.

Boston is ok to doe what they did so long as its even. Im sure they contacted the league prior.
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4/21/2005  10:59 AM
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by Allanfan20:

No. Boston was smart to rest their starters, just like how all the other locked up teams did. Phoenix rested their starters, the Wiz rested Gilbert and Hughes at the end. This was apre season game for Boston. They had an obligation to do nothing.
I thought that according to legal policy, you have an obligation to try to win every game

Well then, I guess just about every team except the damn Knicks goes against league policy then, hmm?

Bonn, you're the coach of you're own pro bball team, and you're about to be the 3rd seed of the playoffs. No ifs or buts. You're playing the final game of the season and it's as meaningless as pre season. You're starters are tired. You have Paul Pierce and Antoine Walker playing great, but they are banged up. You want to go far in the playoffs, but your guys need rest. Plus, you have the aging Gary Payton. Are you really really really gonna give the majority of your minutes to your starters? Or are you gonna limit them so they can be as fresh as possible for the playoffs.
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4/21/2005  11:12 AM
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by Allanfan20:

No. Boston was smart to rest their starters, just like how all the other locked up teams did. Phoenix rested their starters, the Wiz rested Gilbert and Hughes at the end. This was apre season game for Boston. They had an obligation to do nothing.
I thought that according to legal policy, you have an obligation to try to win every game


Is this guy for real? Is there any type of ignore filter I can activate so I don't have to read this constant drivel from the same person time and time again? It's like a virus, it's on every thread!
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4/21/2005  11:31 AM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by Allanfan20:

No. Boston was smart to rest their starters, just like how all the other locked up teams did. Phoenix rested their starters, the Wiz rested Gilbert and Hughes at the end. This was apre season game for Boston. They had an obligation to do nothing.
I thought that according to legal policy, you have an obligation to try to win every game


Is this guy for real? Is there any type of ignore filter I can activate so I don't have to read this constant drivel from the same person time and time again? It's like a virus, it's on every thread!

EVeryone's got "someone special" that gets under their skin. You just gotta pick and choose your times that you feel like taking them on, and the rest of the time, just say 'whatever' and move on.
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4/21/2005  11:33 AM
I smell a snit coming on!
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4/21/2005  12:17 PM
Posted by Nalod:

I smell a snit coming on!
Nah, there's no point in that. It just gets boring. If Briggs doesn't want to be respectful, that's his choice.

Allanfan, I probably would have done the same thing as the Celtics did. My question was simply whether it was fair to the Cavs. For example, if you were a Cav fan would you think it was fair? Sorry, I should have been clearer earlier.

[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 04/21/2005 12:19:59]
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4/21/2005  12:28 PM
And in that sense. Who cares? Why should Boston care? I don't. LeBron will get plenty of chances and his time will come. The way I see it, "WAIT YOUR TURN YOUNG PUP!" No teams are out there to hurt them or help them. They are here to help themselves. And they didn't make the playoffs. The Cavs have nobody but themselves to blame, just like the Knicks.
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4/21/2005  12:54 PM
Boston has a responsibility to their fans only to make sure their players are healthy going into the playoffs...CLE has only themselves to blame for being in the position of having to rely on other teams to determine their playoff fates...same would have applied if the Knicks were in a similar situation...i have no sympathy for the Cavs nor do i fault the Celtics for resting their starters in a meaningless game for their team.
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4/21/2005  3:12 PM
What's so hard to understand? Boston played Cleveland and didn't play there starters long. And they did samething vs Nets. You can't say it's unfair when both teams got treated the same.
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4/21/2005  8:34 PM
after the way they treated ricky davis, and because they are lebron ready playoffs are now automatic in cleveland?

i didn't think so either....what's really unfair
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4/22/2005  1:10 AM
Posted by Bonn1997:

Boston knew that the winner of their game against NJ would determine whether NJ or Cleveland made the playoffs, but they barely played their starters. I know you could say that who makes it with the 8th seed isn't their concern; just being healthy for the playoffs is. But doesn't Boston have a responsibility to try to win games or to at least try as hard to beat NJ as they tried to win each time they played Cleveland? (They did give their starters regular minutes each time they played Cleveland.)

I would normally agree with this, but Screw cleveland, and Paxon, the cavs did everything they could two years ago to lose every game and tank to get lebron. They could of cared less about the integrity of the game.. They were up 5 games on the nets with just two weeks to go.. they folded like a tent. Boston owed them nothing..... Nets won the games they needed to win, the nets are in and they deserve it,now they will get demasculated by the heat...
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4/22/2005  10:44 AM
If you have to blame someone for Cleaveland not making the playoffs you have to start with them, the Cavs. They were almost asured of a playoff spot early in the season and were still in it at the end. But they started playing poorly, and I remember they were responsible of one of our last wins because they played soo bad. The Cavs had their destiny in their hands and they just let it slip away. Why do the Celtics have to care about them? As many pointed out, with NJ they did the same thing as with Cle: rest their starters. And thats exactly what a playoff team does when its spot is already assured and its the last game of the season. The Cavs should've never let it come to the last game. They did, and now they pay.
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4/22/2005  11:10 AM
Posted by tkf:
Posted by Bonn1997:

Boston knew that the winner of their game against NJ would determine whether NJ or Cleveland made the playoffs, but they barely played their starters. I know you could say that who makes it with the 8th seed isn't their concern; just being healthy for the playoffs is. But doesn't Boston have a responsibility to try to win games or to at least try as hard to beat NJ as they tried to win each time they played Cleveland? (They did give their starters regular minutes each time they played Cleveland.)

I would normally agree with this, but Screw cleveland, and Paxon, the cavs did everything they could two years ago to lose every game and tank to get lebron. They could of cared less about the integrity of the game.. They were up 5 games on the nets with just two weeks to go.. they folded like a tent. Boston owed them nothing..... Nets won the games they needed to win, the nets are in and they deserve it,now they will get demasculated by the heat...
Couldn't agree more.
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