Posted by Silverfuel:

franco has a good point.

Z would get killed by these same fans because he's slow and all he does is shoot from outside.

What do u say guns? Z brings presence in the paint on Defense but who plays post offense?

EDIT: Dont say Sweetney. Give me another name.

[Edited by - Silverfuel on 04/20/2005 12:06:23]

Z's offense doesn't consist of only jumpers. He's incredible in the post. He has a ton of post moves. He can flat out score in the post and being 7'3 really helps. Heck Ewing was his favorite player!

I would still like an upgrade at the PF spot like a Taft, Williams or Warrick but if its Kurt, Sweetney or Taylor with Z at center we can live with it. Especially is we draft Gerald Green in the backcourt.


[Edited by - gunsnewing on 04/20/2005 12:15:16]

I disagree with that. We can get Odoms, because LA is looking to bring in Yao next season. They need cap space because they have too much money invested on Briant, they may not even be able to retain Butler.....We don't have to let go of Marburry for Odoms, that is absurde

Posted by gunsnewing:

i like the idea of getting Odom to play the 4 but the only way we get him is by trading Marbury and I don't think Minnsota will do a Kurt/Craw for spree and their 1st draft picks in years. But say we draft Taft, Williams or Warrick to player PF with Z that would be a big time frontline!

Forget about Bogut, because we will not get the first pick. We can get the 2-5 easily, but we whomever we draft will not be able to fully contribute immediately. We need big Z and we can draft his countryman (the 7'3" russian) to learn from him.....and bring in Odoms and a pick by trading Penny or TT/Kurt Thomas or Malik. I would much rather trade Kurt because the Knicks really need to go to another direction...

Cause kwame still can turn into something very nice.

http://www.hoopshype.com/rumors.htm

Zydrunas Ilgauskas is soon to be an unrestricted free agent, so Tuesday could very well have been his last home game as a Cavalier. Ilgauskas and the Cavaliers appear to be tens of millions and years apart in initial negotiations. It has led to Ilgauskas becoming frustrated and beginning to believe he won't be returning to the team next season. According to two insiders with knowledge of the talks, Ilgauskas and his agent, Herb Rudoy, are looking for a longer-term deal with a minimal cut on his salary of $14.6 million. The Cavaliers are believed to be offering just a three- or four-year deal averaging about $10 million per season.

he's not coming here guys.

I just hope that we don't get srewed like Dampier did us. We really need a big man at Center. We need to really develop a Center, forget about Kurt at Center. We need to draft a big man and play him from beginning to end of the season. Not yank him when he does something wrong, play him just like the Bobcats, Nets, or other teams that have played their young players. That has been the problem with our team. We are so unwilling to play the young boys, as a result, we have hurt their progress. Draft a big man and play him as a freaking starter. Do the same for whomever we bring in as a SG or SF. Ariza should have been our starter this season, and so is Sweetney...

Posted by TMS:

http://www.hoopshype.com/rumors.htm

Zydrunas Ilgauskas is soon to be an unrestricted free agent, so Tuesday could very well have been his last home game as a Cavalier. Ilgauskas and the Cavaliers appear to be tens of millions and years apart in initial negotiations. It has led to Ilgauskas becoming frustrated and beginning to believe he won't be returning to the team next season. According to two insiders with knowledge of the talks, Ilgauskas and his agent, Herb Rudoy, are looking for a longer-term deal with a minimal cut on his salary of $14.6 million. The Cavaliers are believed to be offering just a three- or four-year deal averaging about $10 million per season.

he's not coming here guys.

huh? How did you reach that conclusion from the hoopshype paragraph?

Posted by TMS:

he's looking for a big contract...Knicks have no cap room & the Cavs have no use for guys like KT or TT on their team...i don't think we need to get into another drawn out discussion on this...none of this is new.

Do they have any bad contracts that they'd dump for TT or Penny? I haven't looked at their payroll. I'd take one or two mildly bad (i.e., only 2 or 3 years left) contracts for Big Z

[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 04/20/2005 14:24:01]

Eric Snow is their only bad contract, but they signed him last year to stabilize the team...McInnis may not be back next year as he's a FA...& i would not be interested in trading for Snow's contract anyway to get Big Z...those 2 guys don't fit in at all w/an uptempo style game.