After watching another collapse in last nights game its clear Isiah has run this team into the ground, his players are no only dumb, uninspired, underachievers, but they can't recognize simple plays....

Nevermind that Marbury and Crawford were pissed on by Lue and Diaw for 55 points, but the one kid Isiah would have had a shot at had he not given his draft pick to the suns took the game over. Josh Smith embarrassed the entire Knicks organization, he was blocking shots, Sweetneys fat as was falling for fakes to his right side it was disgraceful.....these *******s can't even learn player tendencies or read scouting reports i haven't seen anything like this ever.......

And Herb for some reason plays Mo Taylor who shouldn't be in the NBA, this team has no heart no perimeter or interior defense, and can't box out.........

These three are to blame, lets start with Isiah, he fires Lennys #1 assistant the second game of the year which makes for a great coaching environment, the man lies through his teeth everyday of his life, i would never fired Lenny Wilkens which he did, and he keeps undermining the coaching staff....

Crawford perhaps the biggest reason why the team is terrible, no defense ever, every shot he throws up is ill-advised.....

Marbury can you once, once just drive the ****ing ball to the basket instead of running a pick and roll, Herb needs to be fired he doesn't deserve a second chance the team hasn't shown any promise on the defensive end.....139 to the Hawks.......

Cool heads prevail again I see...

i ain't mad at marbury. i ain't mad at crawford. in fact, i'm not mad at anybody on this roster.

i am only upset with isiah for assembling this mismatched squad where nobody compliments each other. there's a good amount of individual talent here but collectively, make up the consistency of 2 year old doo doo.

Posted by MaTT4281:

Cool heads prevail again I see...

its not my style, but which part of what he said is wrong or unfair?

Posted by MS:

After watching another collapse in last nights game its clear Isiah has run this team into the ground, his players are no only dumb, uninspired, underachievers, but they can't recognize simple plays....

Nevermind that Marbury and Crawford were pissed on by Lue and Diaw for 55 points, but the one kid Isiah would have had a shot at had he not given his draft pick to the suns took the game over. Josh Smith embarrassed the entire Knicks organization, he was blocking shots, Sweetneys fat as was falling for fakes to his right side it was disgraceful.....these *******s can't even learn player tendencies or read scouting reports i haven't seen anything like this ever.......

And Herb for some reason plays Mo Taylor who shouldn't be in the NBA, this team has no heart no perimeter or interior defense, and can't box out.........

These three are to blame, lets start with Isiah, he fires Lennys #1 assistant the second game of the year which makes for a great coaching environment, the man lies through his teeth everyday of his life, i would never fired Lenny Wilkens which he did, and he keeps undermining the coaching staff....

Crawford perhaps the biggest reason why the team is terrible, no defense ever, every shot he throws up is ill-advised.....

Marbury can you once, once just drive the ****ing ball to the basket instead of running a pick and roll, Herb needs to be fired he doesn't deserve a second chance the team hasn't shown any promise on the defensive end.....139 to the Hawks.......

Did you really want them to win? Look, I agree with you, but right now, we should be happy for the losses, they mean that the team will have a better chance at acquiring top shelf talent in the draft. Currently, we're in 7th place in the draft, but have the exact same records as the 8th and 9th teams (TOR and GSW). If we had won last night, we'd be in 9th. That's a big difference. that's two teams that get to look at an impact player before us. Its all about losing right now.

Worry about building an identity and some defensive intensity when we have our real coach and a team of parts that make sense together. If we don't have that by next fall, I'm with you to lynch Dolan and Zeke. I can't blame Marbury though. He is what he is: a great offensive talent with no leadership or defensive skills.

Posted by MaTT4281:

Posted by fishmike:

its not my style, but which part of what he said is wrong or unfair?

I'm not saying he's necessarily wrong, I just do think it's over reacting a little right now, especially now that we've entered meaningless games that we've been wanting to lose.

[Edited by - MaTT4281 on 04/18/2005 10:37:57]

thats fair... but let me add one more thing about the idiocy of this franchise and a meaningless game. Our one star elite player in Marbury is banged up. He's had ankle surguries in the past and supposedly his feet and knee are bothering him. Now in a game we would all agree is meaningless he plays 50 minutes. 50. Why not put Houston out for 50 minutes also.. this way we will know he has to retire in the offseason because our interim coach ran him till he bled.

Its mind boggling. Really

maybe we can pull a Sea like turnaround but I have pretty low expections. Hopefully we get a couple guys that can make the roster just keep adding your guys that play hard.

Ive been upset with Crawford but not enough yet to want to see him traded.If he comes back next season and plays like he hasnt learned a thing,then I wouldnt object to moving him at all.

I believe giving him until the all-star break is plenty of time for him to show that he is a smarter player.Not to mention he needs to work on his D.


Isiah as far as Im concerned has one more season to prove he has a good plan.If he trades deadweight for more deadweight with longer contracts then adios.

U got to be ****ing kidding me your giving up 55 points to role players, Marbury is the self proclaimed best pg in the league, nevermind he isn't a top 10 guard in the league, he should be able to stay with lue

And lets not mention childress also put up more than 20

Posted by MS:

U got to be ****ing kidding me your giving up 55 points to role players, Marbury is the self proclaimed best pg in the league, nevermind he isn't a top 10 guard in the league, he should be able to stay with lue

And lets not mention childress also put up more than 20

OK so why not put all 130+ points on marbury, I mean marbury guarded the whole hawks team, right? Lets put it this way, the so called self proclaimed best PG in the league has some great games vs the likes of Kidd, bibby, francis, and Iverson.. And believe me Tryronne lue and Diaw and childress also had good games against teams other than the knicks... I don't see why all the hate towards marbury here?

[Edited by - tkf on 04/18/2005 15:27:04]

I really like what I have been seeing from Crawford latley. He looks great when he is moving recieves a pass and takes the ball to the rack. I also is a flash passer who would probably get Sweetney a lot of open looks if he were to do so consistantly. If he can get his weight up then he would be able to finish better as well.

I also like what I have been seeing from Sweetney latley he is starting to restore my faith a little bit. He looks thiner to me. And has improved a lot down this stretch. He should continue to lose pounds and improve that jumper.

Ariza so far the last few games he has been showing flashes of improvement in his shooting. He hit a 3 that would be huge if he developed 3 point shooting. He would be able to start easy with some more weight so he could finish better like Crawford and the ability to hit the 3 to go along with his crazy ahtletism.