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diderotn
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4/14/2005  11:45 AM
Do you all believe that Crawff is a good fit for this ballclub???? also, do you believe that he is a SG or a PG????
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4/14/2005  11:47 AM
Crawford should be a PG, but he didn't have the focus or discipline for it as he proved in Chicago, so now they and he are trying to sell him at SG, but he's essentially just a 3 point shooter right now. I'd rather have Fred Hoiberg if that's the case.
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4/14/2005  11:47 AM
diderotn, in the future please make your thread titles more descriptive. Something like... 'Do you all believe that Craw is a good fit'

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4/14/2005  11:47 AM
see larry hughes...i think that's Jamal's potential

i think he can be a good fit depending on what other pieces we add to this team over the offseason.

[Edited by - TMS on 04/14/2005 11:48:14]
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4/14/2005  11:51 AM
TMS, I agree with you, but I don't think that Crawfford can never be as good as Larry. Larry was always a good defender which Crawfford is not. Larry was always selective of his shots, and Craw is not. I don't know, at this point, I do believe that it may take Crawfford about 4 more years to finally find his game....He has got to recognize that he is a horrible 3 point shooter. The day he does and improve his range from 3 to a consistant 2 point shooter, he will be ok.

Posted by TMS:

see larry hughes...i think that's Jamal's potential

i think he can be a good fit depending on what other pieces we add to this team over the offseason.

[Edited by - TMS on 04/14/2005 11:48:14]
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4/14/2005  11:51 AM
Hughes is a bit bigger and stronger, but if Craw worked for it he could have something like Rip's game - if anything, Rip is thinner than Craw, and Craw has the potential to copy Rip's game.
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4/14/2005  11:52 AM
Will do Andy

Posted by Andrew:

diderotn, in the future please make your thread titles more descriptive. Something like... 'Do you all believe that Craw is a good fit'

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4/14/2005  12:03 PM
believe it or not crawford weighs more tha larry hughes
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4/14/2005  12:08 PM
Look at Larry's frame and compare it to Crawfffff. Larry is 20 times more athletic than Crawfford

Posted by Cookdcokehop:

believe it or not crawford weighs more tha larry hughes
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4/14/2005  12:27 PM
Again with this Crawford talk this guy is not getting traded and yes he's a good fit. I believe that since Houston was a gimp this season it required Crawford to take the load of being a SG and at times a PG so I think he was not as effective as he should be. Along with a big man a veteran backup SG is also important to help with his development.
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4/14/2005  12:34 PM
yeah Hughes is pretty cut, far from skinny. I never got the comparisons to jamal. Rip is thin but he worked hard on sculpting his body. Hopefully Craw can do the same
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4/14/2005  12:58 PM
Posted by gunsnewing:

yeah Hughes is pretty cut, far from skinny. I never got the comparisons to jamal. Rip is thin but he worked hard on sculpting his body. Hopefully Craw can do the same

if you'd seen Larry when he was playing w/Philly, you'd know where the comparisons come from...give Jamal a couple years of weight training, strength & conditioning.
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4/14/2005  2:16 PM
Craw put on 8 pounds of muscle this season. He is working on it. I also think he could learn alot from Rip. He's quick and has better handle, he should be taking more mid range shots. If we get a big man it would be great because he could break down the d and force the bigs to come out and try to challenge his shot.

I don't think he should alway try to take it all the way to the hole, he should start at the 3 point line and boogie his way into about 15 feet. Do that acouple of times and as guys jump out, he should take it to the rim.

Mid range game should be his thing. But his 3 point shot, though erratic, is pretty good. I mean when it goes in its pure, I think its about when he takes them and how. He seems to be pretty good off the dribble and set. He can make them open or with a hand in his face. Hes just gotta figure out when is the best time to shoot those shots, and under what circumstances. He let reggie have it in Indiana.

[Edited by - Killa4luv on 04/14/2005 14:17:42]
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4/14/2005  2:17 PM
But Larry was no way as inconsistant as Crawfford. Keep in mind that Craw has been in the league for more than 4 years now....You don't have to be a rocket scientist to know that your weakness is not the longrange shots

Posted by TMS:
Posted by gunsnewing:

yeah Hughes is pretty cut, far from skinny. I never got the comparisons to jamal. Rip is thin but he worked hard on sculpting his body. Hopefully Craw can do the same

if you'd seen Larry when he was playing w/Philly, you'd know where the comparisons come from...give Jamal a couple years of weight training, strength & conditioning.
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4/14/2005  2:30 PM
i don't know about that...i can remember watching Hughes launch up some bad choice of shots playing next to AI in Philly his rookie season...his game has become more disciplined over the past year, but he's also had a better foundation to draw from than Crawford has had...remember, Jamal's only been playing organized basketball for 2 years combined (HS & college) before he entered the NBA...he still needs to learn the game much less hone it to the point where he'll be as polished as we'd all like for him to be...give him another year & i think he'll start showing the skills we all thought he'd have.
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4/14/2005  2:37 PM
From what I remember about hughes, he was not always a good defender, his handles were suspect and like most young players, he also took bad shots. Hughes improved steadily every single year, right now he is becomming a complete player, crawford has all the tools, we just hope he can imitate Hughes and improve his overall game. The skill is there, he just has to want to be better. It is all up to jamal..
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4/14/2005  2:37 PM
Posted by diderotn:

But Larry was no way as inconsistant as Crawfford. Keep in mind that Craw has been in the league for more than 4 years now....
Hughes was pretty inconsistent in Philly and in GS. He is also almost every year a low FG% guy expect for one season 2 years ago. Check out the stats, his FG% always hovers around 40%. If you are comparing Hughes though Craw, Hughes is better right now. No arguing there.
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4/14/2005  2:41 PM
hughes WAS in pretty much the same predicament. He was a talent that no one really knew what to do with. They couldn't find a fit for him. He just found it this year realy. His jumpshot was off, I remember reading the articles about him.
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4/14/2005  2:42 PM
Posted by diderotn:

Do you all believe that Crawff is a good fit for this ballclub???? also, do you believe that he is a SG or a PG????

Good question, I will let the next coach decide that. There is not good fits on this club. Right now, nothing seems to fit into the scheme of things, cuz there ain't no apparent scheme.

IN fact, I would not sweat out too many of the many many many trade Ideas we gonna float around at seasons end when we got nothing to really talk about. With Isiah, you never know.
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4/14/2005  2:43 PM
When Crawford scored his 35pts the other day he hit 2 beautiful shots right off the screen by the corner of the ft line. He is cappable of being that type of player. He should be moving without the ball coming off screen all game. This would also allow our big men to move around and set picks which can get them into the flow of things as well.
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