While, I know a bunch of you guys keep saying that the nets also forked over two number ones to toronto for Wince, but even the local bloids seem to be questioning it in some form...

http://www.bergen.com/page.php?qstr=eXJpcnk3ZjczN2Y3dnFlZUVFeXkxMjcmZmdiZWw3Zjd2cWVlRUV5eTY2NzkyMjkmeXJpcnk3ZjcxN2Y3dnFlZUVFeXk2

Except:

It just didn't happen, even though to this day, the Knicks believe they offered more, starting with at least two from among Thomas, Houston, Penny Hardaway and Jerome Williams. The Knicks also were apparently willing to take Jalen Rose (and the $47 million left on his contract) off the Raptors' hands.

Instead, the Nets got Carter and didn't have to take Rose for a seemingly low-ball offer of Aaron and Eric Williams (both little used by the Raptors) and Alonzo Mourning (who departed via a buyout without playing a minute for Toronto). And they're still playing games that matter.

If the two number ones were really the determining factor, then Zeke should have a plentiful summer.

Or continue to be shut out of the trade carousel (the celtics hawk trade still reeks).



[Edited by - rvhoss on 04/13/2005 10:56:51]

this is old news but apparently there was pressure from other GM's for babcock not to trade vince to ny b/c they fear he would've been reborn a star in our market.

it's tough to say isiah has been blackballed b/c he's made 15 trades already.

if you ask me i'd much rather have the package from NJ than the one Isiah was "allegedly" offering in that article...i just don't buy the blackballing conspiracy theory...the Knicks just didn't have tradeable assets...now they do.

Posted by djsunyc:

this is old news but apparently there was pressure from other GM's for babcock not to trade vince to ny b/c they fear he would've been reborn a star in our market.

it's tough to say isiah has been blackballed b/c he's made 15 trades already.

Yep, that had more to do with punishing Carter rather than black balling Zeke.

Carter always wanted to go to a big market, therefore, the Raptors would have never granted him his wish. However, I still believe that Isiah is black balled. His competitive nature will never sit well with most of the GMs around the league, especially those with Celtics roots....

there's some truth to this- I don't think he's been blackballed per se- but, we did have garbage on the roster when he got here & he's gotten garbage back. We have had to swallow some god aweful contracts that no other team would take and I think when Isiah calls a gm, the other gm's eyes light up and he thinks, 'here's my chance to get rid of my overpaid bums'.