The Knicks could use one depending on trades and the draft.

What about Raja Bell? Or maybe some youngin like Matt Caroll.

I like Bell and he was an excellent role player with Phili and Dallas teams.. both good teams.

I would like to take a shot on Charlie Bell. He's a big PG and an explosive scorer. Tough defender also. He's only 26 and would come pretty cheap... like 3 years and $4-$5mm

I really like this Matt Carroll guy. He is a pure shooter but I would prefer Raja Bell over him. I agree with Nalod though, we should draft a SG with a late pick if possible and see what he can do. I trust Zeke's draft choices.

Unless Ariza is moved in a trade for an All-Star, he should be the backup SG. Herb won't be the coach next yar, so Ariza will actually be allowed to play.

Posted by gunsnewing:

whatif Gerald Green is there for us? should we pass up on him when the only clear cut nba ready bigman is Bogut and gamble on a stiff center since Boguts don't grow on trees or should we draft another clear cut dime a dozen SF/PF like Warrick??

the only guy I would trust Zeke in passing on Green would be if he really liked Chris Taft who is a 6'10 260 PF/C

Isiah has never drafted just based on need. He draft based on talent and what he think that player will be able to do at the next level. If Green is available and the Knicks' scouts and coaches like what they see from in their workouts. Then he will be drafted or the Knicks will make a move. As far as I am concern, Isiah much like Layden have an eye for talent. The biggest difference is that Isiah is more willing to do something to ensure he gets the guy he really wants. Layden wanted Marbury, Bosh, Ming, and Nestrovich.

If you cant get Green, the best player who will be available is Cutino Mobley. He would work in a variety of ways and would cost the MLE. Trevor Ariza isnt a SG, he can't shoot and has a terrible hitch in his form. I like Trevor for what he is, a SF who can guard the two-3, who can get easy baskets, create energy, but he is a pure offensive 3. I like Trevor, but I would also be willing to move him in a package deal to move up in this draft.

No disrespect Briggs, but you are nuts for suggesting packaging Ariza for a draft pick. At this point, I would much rather trade Sweetney..

Posted by BRIGGS:

If you cant get Green, the best player who will be available is Cutino Mobley. He would work in a variety of ways and would cost the MLE. Trevor Ariza isnt a SG, he can't shoot and has a terrible hitch in his form. I like Trevor for what he is, a SF who can guard the two-3, who can get easy baskets, create energy, but he is a pure offensive 3. I like Trevor, but I would also be willing to move him in a package deal to move up in this draft.

Posted by TMS:

Posted by BRIGGS:

If you cant get Green, the best player who will be available is Cutino Mobley. He would work in a variety of ways and would cost the MLE. Trevor Ariza isnt a SG, he can't shoot and has a terrible hitch in his form. I like Trevor for what he is, a SF who can guard the two-3, who can get easy baskets, create energy, but he is a pure offensive 3. I like Trevor, but I would also be willing to move him in a package deal to move up in this draft.

Cuttino's got a player option for $6,374,875 next season that he's most certainly likely to exercise, unless he can get an extension signed...you're going to have to offer him the full MLE for max years...i don't know if i'd do that for a backup SG (even though Cuttino could probably start on this squad too).

Cuttino is A LOT better than most of the players who got the full MLE last year. I think he'd be a steal.

Sacramento is supposed to be signing Cuttino to a nice extension. He likes it there.


As for backup SG, I think this is something that can be addressed with the 30th pick. A Graham, Garcia or Hodge should be available.

Two other options in FA/trades:

1) Give Kerry Kittles a chunk of the MLE. Give Trevor the rest.

2) Trade Penny to Toronto for Jalen. I would do this trade straight up at this point. I know its more money and people will bitch and moan, but Jalen has matured. He's a great scorer, ball handler, can play the 2/3, scores well in the post, has turned into a more mature player. He'd get along with Steph. He's from Detroit, so you know Zeke would like him.


I'd still like to move up to the middle of the first round to get Warrick (maybe as part of the Jalen trade, we get Toronto's second first rounder?). I think he's one of the few players in this draft with legit star potential.

If we could come away from this draft with Splitter at 7, Warrick at 16 and Jalen Rose, that adds a lot of talent, some shotblocking in BOTH Warrick and Splitter and some mental toughness.

I would also buyout Tim Thomas, or IR him and force Houston into retirement.

EDIT:

The Penny to Toronto deal could look like this, allowing us to snag Warrick:

Penny + 30 pick
Jalen + 16 pick

[Edited by - crzymdups on 04/14/2005 10:47:34]

kittles would not be a bad choice if we don't draft a impact SG. very good choice. I would even start him over jamal. You need some kind of perimeter D on the starting lineup if your starting 5 isn't gpoing to be outplayed every game like they were this year!

yes...kittles...more knee surgery players...that's EXACTLY what we need.