question to all the medical dudes - why is it that all 3 had the same surgery yet cwebb is able to play for a long stretch of games (he can't practice and he's out now b/c of his shoulder), jkidd is able to play for a long stretch of games and with meaningful minutes, yet h20 can't play more than 20 games and may have to retire? what's the difference there? is it the rehab? or is it the p ssy factor?

well.. Webber is shot if you ask me. He was having a good year but the guy has zero lateral movement and is a lamp post on defense, where he used to be decent (not good but he played hard)

Houston's is arthritic. I know that, and that means it will just continue to degenerate.

Houston's always played through pain and hasnt missed game his whole career. I dont buy the pssy factor. If he isnt playing its because he cant

i agree, webber is shot but he's still playing. h20 could easily gimp around and just set up on the perimeter, like webber does but he doesn't. h20 just needs to retire and help this franchise out.

Posted by djsunyc:

h20 could easily gimp around and just set up on the perimeter, like webber does but he doesn't.

please dont say that! What if it really happens?

h20 just needs to retire and help this franchise out.

agreed but unless his salaray or even a fraction of it comes off the cap there is no way he is helping the franchise. He is just saving Dolan some money. The same money Dolan promised him. Not Layden, Dolan! So if the money is not coming off the cap, I say, he should sit on the bench and eat his salary and screw Dolan for putting us through salary crap hell.

Posted by Killa4luv:

Houston isnt 6-11 and his guys would blow by him and cause major problems for our defense.

LOL! They were blowing by him even when he was healthy. His suffering defense is not the reason why he shouldnt play.

His money doesn't come off the cap though, it just wouldn't have to be paid by Dolan, insurance would pay.

Are you sure about this? I am almost certain that there is a way to get cap relief if a player under contract retires.

Although I dislike Allan Houston, I cannot blame him for not wanting to play. Him playing through an injury will not help this team much. Instead, him not playing allows Craw to get some playing time. Craw can run with Stephon as he has all season long. Thats valuable experience IMO.

Also, I dont think Allan Houston's condition will continue to degrade. I actually think if he rehabs differently and/or gets that 2nd surgery he was advised to go into 2 summers ago, he might be able to recover and get some playing time. Of course, Oldfan will tell me that I shouldnt say this because this is "3rd hand info" but I dont really care. I guess management wants him to retire.

In football, Jason Sehorn came back fairly quickly from microfracture surgery, but never became the player he once was.

a few things from a medical/ sports injury perspective:

1) houstons knees/injury might have been worse than kidds and webbs to begin with

2) the surgeons might have not been the same quality

3) the rehabs might have been different

4) houston coming back several times before he was ready and reinjuring the same knee over and over, then over compensating on the other knee would have only worsened the problem.

Posted by Caseloads:

a few things from a medical/ sports injury perspective:

1) houstons knees/injury might have been worse than kidds and webbs to begin with

2) the surgeons might have not been the same quality

3) the rehabs might have been different

4) houston coming back several times before he was ready and reinjuring the same knee over and over, then over compensating on the other knee would have only worsened the problem.

Does this mean he will leave and never come back again or does this mean he will stay till the end of his contract?