somehow I doubt Toronto would be satisfied to trade Jalen for Penny & just trim one year off their team total- they would probably insist upon dumping all their bad contracts on us, and getting a pick & sweetney & penny.

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Posted by crzymdups:

If Toronto would take Penny for Jalen, I would make them give us a first round pick. We'd be saving them $17 million american dollars, that has to be worth a first rounder. if not, hang up the phone.

I'm not proposing JUST buying a first rounder for $17 million either, I think Jalen would actually be a good fit for Steph. They both have the "us against the world" attitude. As much as I don't like that attitude, as long as Steph is here the team is going to have it, so we might as well build on it.

I don't think a team of "good guys" will necessarily fit in with Steph. Jalen is a personality that could keep Steph in check, maybe not the RIGHT personality, but I think a better fit than Penny.

But, people who say this is more adding money for just a pick and an old player, I can't really argue with that.

I have a weird feeling that Jalen will end up here somehow.

Like an earlier post said, Isiah has turned this into the cap relief central for the NBA. Remember he GAVE the Rockets a 2 AND we TOOK on 15mm in salaries for Mo Taylor. Like I said, i read a post where they had like 80 replies to how stupid and dumb this made the Knicks look. every team thinks they can dump on us, and to soem extent they can--you are right, to take 17MM dollars off someone hands for a 32 year old player is WORTH 2 first round picks, heck Utah made Pheonix pay them 2 for 5 mm

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Posted by Kwazimodal:

Penny might be a shell of his former self but at least he has the right attitude and has had some good moments as a Knick.Rose might give us more production but he wears out his welcome wherever he goes.This team needs to build some chemistry.

right. one of the knicks biggest problems is that they are not a team, but rather a collection of players. and yes there is a difference. what does jalen rose do here? he's going to be 32 and has two years on his contract. how does that build a team?

Im a big proponenet of having a 3-4 man draft like chicago had. I think for us, it's the best move we can make. were not 1 player away from winning a championship, were light years away. you see what GS and Chicago Pheonix have done? they were able to draft young guys play them together then when the time was right bring in the vet player that made sense. we really dont have 1 good young player. what we have are fringe players, i think a mike Sweetney could have a great role as a bench player who can come in and gice you 10 and 6 shooting 50%, but he also has to take it upon himslef to get his weight under control. i like ariza a lot as a bench player who brings energy, i think he has been stymied a bit since herb came in, threw off his regular minutes

but right now i have very little hope. i do think when all is said and done isiah will be going after the jalen rose's the mike finleys the theo ratliff's. why should we even care about the draft, if he said last years sucked which it clearly did nOt, you think hes making picks this year? nO. hes not building a team, hes just fooling himself, the mamangement of the knicks and the fans with crap. hes been a revolving door and I dont see it changing. you get upset as a fan and it tires on you, but there is nothing you can do about it. we had it good in the 90s we had a high IQ management team and now we dont, clear simple cut and dry. we dont have the brains to compete.