all of these tanking teams who are in the lottery are all playing their ENTIRE rosters and have put many high caliber vets on the iR or are sitting.

Tim Thomas goes down tonight finally with a knee problem he should've been out for 3 games ago.

Starbury wouldve had gone 48 minutes if he didnt have FT.
Crawford played 48 minutes

Ariza Sweetney Sundov and Butler got either nothing or a snippet.


the 6th pick means a great deal to this organization, we can get it and we have a chance to REALLy improve with it.

I can see only negatives from playing these guys overextended minutes at this point. Either Marbury Crawford or KT could get a bad injury. what if Marbury gets an injury and he is out until the middle of next year? Was it worth it pushing him 40 minutes in the last 8? If we win, andlose positioning, we potnetially lose a Chris taft or a Gerald Green. We get kudos for trying to win, it just hasnt happened.

They can say they want a change up--they want to change things up and give Sundov a start in the middle and 28 minutes they want to sit KT and give Butler 24 minutes. Put Starbury on IR with 5 games left with ankle tendititis and let Craw run the pg position for 35 minutes


Lets try to finish the season HEALTHY with the best draft position possible. winning a 2-3 games or even 4-5 games isnt going to do a DAM thing for next years season ticket base.

What will juice up the city is a hot draft and possibly swiping zach randolph and maybe cutino mobley

maybe, just maybe we can win that lottery, we can trade kT for a 14-15 and we can come into the season with a 7 footer in Bogut a back up PG like Felton a Jawad Williams with pick 30 and a nice back up C in Menendez from Niagra in the second round.

That would be

7-1 245 Bogut--20--1-2
6-1 200 Felton--21 -- 14
6-10 220 J Williams--22 29-30
6-9 245 J Menendez--23--53

that would be a REAL nice draft.

trade our ending contract and the Spurs pick next year to Portland for Zach

sign Cutino Mobley with the MLE.

OK I will...

if you start benching our starters fans will be even less inclined to attend games.

Bottom line is cash-money. Fill the seats at all costs.

Posted by Stevo718:

OK I will...

if you start benching our starters fans will be even less inclined to attend games.

Bottom line is cash-money. Fill the seats at all costs.

they played on the road tonight.

I agree 100% Briggs. I hope being officially eliminated tomorrow night helps that sink in. They gain nothing by winning now. Nothing. For those that say it's important to finish strong in April to carry over to next season: both Phoenix and Seattle had losing Aprils last year and they seem to be doing fine.

This team needs TALENT at almost every position. The draft is the first and best way to aquire that talent. Let Marbury rest, dammit. He's played his ass off all year and he did the same thing last summer for the Olympics. LET HIM REST BEFORE HE GETS HURT.

Herb is trying to save his job, but what herb should realize is that if he starts or plays a lineup of Craw, ariza, sweetney, butler, and sundov a majority of the minutes and they play good teams close and still lose, herb looks good, he looks good by playing young guys and having them play well vs playoff bound teams. Right now he looks stupid getting smoked playing his vets 48 minutes a game!!!

herbs done no matter what.

this is why I'm down on Isiah right now. He could change all this with a phone call. These last games arent saving Herb's job if the Knicks hold every team we play scoreless.

Every sport is the same. When your down 4 TDs you dont play your star QB in the 4th qtr.
EVERY team in the NBA (like Briggs said) is playing their whole roster.
Baseball teams out of the race play their Sep callups.

Not the Knicks... maybe if we played the kids getting blown out by a frontcourt of Scalaweenie, Collins and Krstic wouldnt be so humiliating

if your goal is to send a message its better sent by sitting these guys for rookies and CBA players.

Posted by SKY:

Yeah, I think Herb just wants to win no matter what, for his own job security. If this is the case, this is pathetic. He is not looking at the team's future but himself only. What kind of Head Coach material is that? Let him go, please.


[Edited by - sky on 04/08/2005 03:20:30]

This is totally unfair. Of course the guy wants to keep his job. Would you intentionally take an action that would get you fired from a job you wanted?

Posted by fishmike:

this is why I'm down on Isiah right now. He could change all this with a phone call. These last games arent saving Herb's job if the Knicks hold every team we play scoreless.

Every sport is the same. When your down 4 TDs you dont play your star QB in the 4th qtr.
EVERY team in the NBA (like Briggs said) is playing their whole roster.
Baseball teams out of the race play their Sep callups.

Not the Knicks... maybe if we played the kids getting blown out by a frontcourt of Scalaweenie, Collins and Krstic wouldnt be so humiliating

Fish, Isiah went to Herb and the media back in January and promised both that he would stay out of his way as far as coaching and to his credit he has. The media was killing him about how he interfere with Lenny but now you want him to step in. Like I said before you can judge Isiah on the players but how they are coach well that is Herb and his assistants.

the SAD thing about the whole minutes issue is that the current crop of players getting big time minutes and still losing, ARE THE SAME CROP NEXT SEASON!!!

What teams are going that deep on their roster? In the Toronto area, all I here is fans complaining that their lottery pick gets little playing time (less than Ariza) and Bosh still gets 45 minutes. GS is playing Baron and killing their draft lottery chances.