Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by diderotn:

You are right, that was a crazy trade suggestion....

Yeah, it's possible for a player (Marbury) to have one losing season but to still be awesome and worth keeping unless you get a better superstar in return.

Posted by TMS:

you said something very different on my thread a few days ago discussing possible trade options to get these 2 guys...why the change of heart?:

http://ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?page=3&t=8716

crzymdups
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Joined: 05/01/2004 Posted - 04/04/2005 : 14:56:57 Show Profile Reply with Quote the ridiculous issue here is that you guys always seem to want the star players after they "pop."

the problem is, once a player pops, his price tag (i.e. what you have to trade to get him) goes waaaaaay up. Maggette was a 13th pick in the draft back in the day. Now, we'd have to trade the 7th pick plus other stuff to get him. Doesn't that seem messed up? I'd rather draft Taft and have him develop to the point where he's a player we could never acquire in a trade. That's the whole point of the draft - pluck superstars before their price tag goes up too high.

this team needs a lot more than Corey Maggette. It needs size, shot blocking, defense at almost every position and athleticism. With the draft picks we have, we can add two young, big horses this year basically for free. Add them to the core of Marbury, Ariza, Sweets, Jamal and you might have something. Overpaying for a nice player on a bad team is not the way to go. We already overpaid for Marbs, now we have to restock through the draft.

[Edited by - TMS on 04/07/2005 09:14:53]

Posted by crzymdups:

Posted by TMS:

you said something very different on my thread a few days ago discussing possible trade options to get these 2 guys...why the change of heart?:

http://ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?page=3&t=8716

crzymdups
Posts: 1195
Joined: 05/01/2004 Posted - 04/04/2005 : 14:56:57 Show Profile Reply with Quote the ridiculous issue here is that you guys always seem to want the star players after they "pop."

the problem is, once a player pops, his price tag (i.e. what you have to trade to get him) goes waaaaaay up. Maggette was a 13th pick in the draft back in the day. Now, we'd have to trade the 7th pick plus other stuff to get him. Doesn't that seem messed up? I'd rather draft Taft and have him develop to the point where he's a player we could never acquire in a trade. That's the whole point of the draft - pluck superstars before their price tag goes up too high.

this team needs a lot more than Corey Maggette. It needs size, shot blocking, defense at almost every position and athleticism. With the draft picks we have, we can add two young, big horses this year basically for free. Add them to the core of Marbury, Ariza, Sweets, Jamal and you might have something. Overpaying for a nice player on a bad team is not the way to go. We already overpaid for Marbs, now we have to restock through the draft.

[Edited by - TMS on 04/07/2005 09:14:53]

The ability to get Wilcox. The fact that the Clippers would stop and think about this trade before hanging up. The realization that Marbury may be part of the problem, and even if he isn't this trade is trading Marbury for two players who would easily be the best two players on the team.

We have a glut at the PG, Jamal isn't a real SG and has proven he can be a good if not very good PG. Corey and Jamal is a better, more balanced backcourt than Steph and Jamal, not because Corey is better than Steph, but because Corey and Jamal have balanced games and good size.

It's time to start thinking about building a team of COMPLIMENTARY players that fit together and make sense.

Also, TMS, the more I thought about it, the more I liked your trade, but I felt like we would have to GIVE more to get that package.

Posted by TMS:

Posted by Killa4luv:

K marts contract is ridiculous, I don't want it. I'd rather have camby's which is shorter, for less money, and his style of play is exactly what we need.

yeah it is ridiculous...but i'd rather take a guy like that who's not coming w/off the court issues who plays hard every night & is an impact player on the defensive end than a guy like Zach Randolph for example, who not only has character issues, but also questions about his knees as well.