I was scrounging around the backalleys of RealGM when I came upon a bunch of clips of some of the bigger name HS kids-- Green, Monta Ellis, Louis Williams. The credit goes to some fella who calls himself kiz5. The thread is here (http://www.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=357970&start=0), but I took the liberty of extracting the relevant stuff for easy consumption below.

Gerald Green
http://rivalshoops.rivals.com/images/prospect/video/bb05greengerald1.wmv
http://rivalshoops.rivals.com/images/prospect/video/bb05greengerald2.wmv
http://rivalshoops.rivals.com/images/prospect/video/bb05greengerald3.wmv
http://rivalshoops.rivals.com/images/prospect/video/bb05greengerald4.wmv
http://rivalshoops.rivals.com/images/prospect/video/bb05greengerald5.wmv
http://rivalshoops.rivals.com/images/prospect/video/bb05greengerald6.wmv

Monta Ellis
http://rivalshoops.rivals.com/images/prospect/video/bb05ellismonta1.wmv
http://rivalshoops.rivals.com/images/prospect/video/bb05ellismonta2.wmv
http://rivalshoops.rivals.com/images/prospect/video/bb05ellismonta3.wmv
http://rivalshoops.rivals.com/images/prospect/video/bb05ellismonta4.wmv

Louis Williams
http://rivalshoops.rivals.com/images/prospect/video/bb05williamslouis1.wmv
http://rivalshoops.rivals.com/images/prospect/video/bb05williamslouis2.wmv
http://rivalshoops.rivals.com/images/prospect/video/bb05williamslouis3.wmv
http://rivalshoops.rivals.com/images/prospect/video/bb05williamslouis4.wmv
http://rivalshoops.rivals.com/images/prospect/video/bb05williamslouis5.wmv
http://rivalshoops.rivals.com/images/prospect/video/bb05williamslouis6.wmv
http://rivalshoops.rivals.com/images/prospect/video/bb05williamslouis7.wmv
http://rivalshoops.rivals.com/images/prospect/video/bb05williamslouis8.wmv
http://rivalshoops.rivals.com/images/prospect/video/bb05williamslouis9.wmv
http://rivalshoops.rivals.com/images/prospect/video/bb05williamslouis10.wmv
http://rivalshoops.rivals.com/images/prospect/video/bb05williamslouis11.wmv
http://rivalshoops.rivals.com/images/prospect/video/bb05williamslouis12.wmv

[Edited by - tomverve on 04/01/2005 01:08:16]

thanks Tom,

that rocks.. Green is smoooooothh....

Great shooting form, willing defender, and will dish it.

He's who we should target.

How tall is Green? and what is his weight?

Posted by codeunknown:

Things to note: Green's handle still needs work. He needs a lot of space to drive to the hoop, which he seems to do infrequently. To me, he just doesn't seem a step quicker than everyone else reaction wise - which, to me, is the sign of a dominant perimeter player. His game right now is out-jumping opponents. His release is reasonably quick but he doesn't get too much lift on his jumper - that will hurt him on contested pull-up Js.

He's being drafted on his offensive potential, so that has to be scrutinized thoroughly. And there are certain glaring weaknesses that Im not positive will be fixed by coaching etc.

Posted by codeunknown:

Things to note: Green's handle still needs work. He needs a lot of space to drive to the hoop, which he seems to do infrequently. To me, he just doesn't seem a step quicker than everyone else reaction wise - which, to me, is the sign of a dominant perimeter player. His game right now is out-jumping opponents. His release is reasonably quick but he doesn't get too much lift on his jumper - that will hurt him on contested pull-up Js.

He's being drafted on his offensive potential, so that has to be scrutinized thoroughly. And there are certain glaring weaknesses that Im not positive will be fixed by coaching etc.

He also has a week left hand dribble. Kid defnitely has a lot of potential. A definite late lotto pick IMHO. He could use 1 year of college where he might be in the 1-2-3 pick the following year. Nah, come out so Zeke can have more options.

I've seen clips of Iverson, KG, Kobe, Jason Kidd and I even got the pleasure of seening Marbury in person when he was in High School.....all those guys were more impressive than anything on this thread.

All these new guys looked very regular. I've seen kids play like that in the park.

Maybe the High School All-star games were better than what I saw out of those clips.

[Edited by - enyspree on 04/01/2005 09:21:24]

I see a kid at 6'8, handling the ball fairly well... (he could have been anywhere from 16-18 when this footage was taken). WIth a very impressive shooting stroke. His athleticism is under-wraps because he plays a controlled game. I don't think he's in Lebrons class.. but who is.

Posted by NYKBocker:


He also has a week left hand dribble. Kid defnitely has a lot of potential. A definite late lotto pick IMHO. He could use 1 year of college where he might be in the 1-2-3 pick the following year. Nah, come out so Zeke can have more options.

His drive needs work overall. His left hand dribble is actually somewhat reliable considering he's right handed. But, it seems like he can only go left. And settle for the J. Also looks like he's afraid of contact.

His shot is ok in terms of mechanics. More than his form, which looks a little bit funky, its the timing of his release. It looks like a semi-set shot.

Obviously take him with our pick if available. But, the Knicks need to work him out rigorously and check out what appear to be fundamental deficiencies.