Posted by rvhoss:

I think I'm on the wrong board...I've read nothing but positivity.

seriously, if we had camby and Houston healthy, we'd be a strong 3 seed.

We need that shot blocking big...that's the only big we need.

And I agree on the healthy SG...I thought h20 said he was gonna play this year? LIES!

So, marbs is definitely the man, craw is definitely a 6th man (and judging by his salary this year, it's fitting). Our payroll is deceptive because the highest paid player doesn't play, and we still have shandon on the books for boku bucks.

So, looking at the salary, if we get rid of penny, and ignore houstons salary, and really think of TT as a 6-7 mill player, is it really that bad?

Not sure...but something to think about.

sorry for the ramble...taking it all in.

Posted by crzymdups:

Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by djsunyc:

Posted by Bonn1997:

"Does shooting 36% 3s really hurt the team? Statistically, it's the same as shooting 54% 2s." - Bonn1997 (sorry dude but this is CLASSIC)

LOL! I just noticed that now. Why would you apologize? I'm not ashamed to have accurate multiplication skills. I didn't say it was practically the equivalent of shooting 54% 2s. That's a separate discussion. I only said it was statistically equivalent. You actually found that interesting enough to use as your signature? Whatever makes you happy...

i found the depths that you would go to to defend something that is clearly a negative (in the crawford thread) absolutely hilarious.

The depths that I would go? You mean four sentences? You have a generous sense of humor I guess. That's a good quality

Also, I'll say this again and again, but Bonn is absolutely right. I'd rather Craw shoot threes than deep twos. I wish he drove more, but I have no problem with his 3s, its his lack of midrange consistancy that kills him.

Posted by tomverve:

The 4 game road trip proved one thing, primarily-- we're still a poor road team. We probably would have gone 2-2 or 3-1 if that was a 4 game homestand instead of a 4 game western swing. I really don't see the big deal-- it just reaffirmed what we've known for a while. I'm actually quite happy that we dumped all those games, because it'll help us get a better talent in the draft. Talent cures a lot of ills, and this team just needs lots more of it.

The constant harping on the money is lame. Even though the roster is predominantly Isiah's acquisitions now, he's had to work under the constraints given by Layden. The way the CBA is structured, we just can't expect our cap situation to evaporate overnight. As for the salary Isiah has added (and this is in terms of contract length, not what we're spending this year-- if Isiah had sat on his butt and done nothing, we'd still have been doling out massive dollars this year): JC and KT are reasonable contracts, perhaps a bit over market value, but nothing terrible; and Taylor's and JYD's contracts are negligible, since they don't outrun Houston's and Shamdon's. The only real salary cap damage Isiah has done has been acquiring Rose, since his contract outlives Houston's and Shamdon's by a year. But for a team in dire need of young talent, getting 2 draft picks arguably makes Rose's last contract year worth it, even if they're late first rounders.

Here's my appeal (again). Let's just wait and see what happens on draft night before we wring our hands in a nervous fit. It's not that far off now, and it will be Isiah's first chance to make a big splash in the draft. Wait 3 months, and we'll have a lot of new information that will tell us the direction that we're headed in.

Posted by fishmike:

I think 90% of the problem with Isiah and what he's done (for me) is he's done nothing to establish an identity or style of play.

When we had Spree, Houston, Ward, Eisley, Anderson, KT, Spoon, Harrington and Doleac we actually had more of an identity. We won 37 games which is pretty good considering we had the smallest and most limited frontcourts in all of BB. BUT we were top 3 in the league in fewest TOs, number of 3's made and 3 point %. Also very high in FT%. We were a perimeter team and that group played very well together considering how bad our bigs were.

Thats what I mean by identity. I wasnt expecting Isiah to field a 50 game winning roster after a year. I was expecting him to get a couple players that fit into the long term goal and establish a style of play.

He's totally failed to do that, and it hurts us every night. When you have a style of play it gives you something to build one, some kind of plan to follow.

Posted by diderotn:

Why are you blaming Isiah for the identity problem, isn't it the coaches' job???? We appear to find some form of an identity with Herb, but it will not be a solid identity until Herb has a full training camp under his belt.

BRIGGS: what team that has won a championship has taken on salaries like this, let me answer NONE!